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Topic: #2 Ohio State (9-0, 12-0) at #13 Michigan (6-3, 9-3) Post Game

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2019, 09:19:34 AM »
good analysis Max.

For me, the game will all hinge on what Shea Patterson does. And I have zero confidence in him. If he's throwing for 300+ and 3-4 TD's and limits the turnovers to 1 or 0- Michigan has a shot. If he struggles to crack 250, turns it over a couple times, and only throws 1 or 2 TD's- Michigan has no shot. For Michigan it'll all come down to how that OL schemes up to block Chase Young and how well Patterson plays.
The possibilities are there and he seems to be rebounding.Buckyes can't turn the ball over on back-back drives like they did vs PSU,not on the road anyway
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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #85 on: November 26, 2019, 09:22:07 AM »
Did you copy & paste that ? Because if not it's a great breakdown,much better than most of the networks slanted slappies.As I've mentioned before Ms passing game is what we expected about 8-9 weeks ago.Unless it's raining,put Jones,Black & Collins out there point them in different directions and start tossing it like crazy
LOL thanks that's a Sammy original

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2019, 10:14:17 AM »
A lot of the stuff I read here is FAR better than anything on the usual web sites.  Medina in particular brings the stats to a story, ELA does his thing, and Maxsam writes very thoughtfully, I think, and I'm missing several others.

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2019, 10:22:10 AM »
Brutus, Nubbz, and I?
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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2019, 10:25:15 AM »
 I kind of like Michigan in this game but it’s not for Xs and Os reasons. I tend to think MDot Has it right, it probably comes down to which QB handles the pass rush pressure they are certainly both going to face and frankly Patterson has never lost at home and is playing out of his mind right now where as or fields showed some cracks in his armor last week,  and has never faced this type of environment in this good of a team   

 We tend to not bat an eye when an NFL team loses 34 or even five times but gets hot at the end of the year and gets into the playoffs and makes a run. But for college football for some reason we as fans always think of early-season things and just assume that that’s what a team is when the reality is Michigan is a perfect example of a team that’s playing as good as anybody in the country right now 






 My reasons to think Michigan may just win this thing are as follows: 

1.  Momentum. Call it the “hot hand“ or whatever you want but right now Michigan has it and I’m not sure that Ohio State does. 

2. hunger.   I always say you can’t manufacture hunger in football. A pregame speech may get somebody fired up for five minutes or until first contact but real hunger is deep in the gut and brews for weeks and months. With Ohio State not having experienced last year‘s defeat and having experienced success and already having locked up the Eastern division title I have to believe the hunger in the Michigan players bellies is significantly greater. 

3. Talent.   When Michigan executes the way they are now and their offense is being successful, keeping that defense extremely fresh, I feel they are just as talented as Ohio State. Combine that with a significant advantage for home-field and I think they can easily go toe to toe with the buckeyes    

 In fact I will say that if this game has a wide margin of victory the team more likely to achieve that is actually the Wolverines. 

 As a Buckeye fan my sincere hope is that they play extremely hard but more importantly clean meeting very few if any turnovers or penalties because if they do that I think they will stay within punching range but I do expect Michigan to throw the ball all over the park. 

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2019, 10:27:14 AM »
Brutus, Nubbz, and I?
LOL - Always good to hear from the lunatic fringe
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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2019, 10:31:11 AM »
Brutus, Nubbz, and I?
Yeah, and others as well.

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2019, 12:33:07 PM »
Weather forecast is a mixture of sleet, rain, and snow.  Sounds awesome.

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2019, 01:48:40 PM »
BTW speaking of strength against strength.  

Don Brown on his defense: "Solve your problems with aggression!"

Ryan Day at his press conference today: ""We're aggressive, we always will be aggressive and we're going to be aggressive."


If you are very bored you can watch the 2014 Pinstripe Bowl where early James Franklin got a win in OT over Boston College.  Notably, BC's defensive coordinator was Don Brown and their offensive coordinator was Ryan Day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tQAGajo1KM

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2019, 02:26:52 PM »
Weather forecast is a mixture of sleet, rain, and snow.  Sounds awesome.

I wonder how Fields will manage with those conditions.

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2019, 02:45:26 PM »
I wonder how Fields will manage with those conditions.
Honestly I think bad conditions favors Fields. Patterson can run a little bit, but he’s not the runner that Fields is. Fields has better acceleration and top end speed than Patterson. 

If it’s miserable conditions and cold and rainy and windy and the ball is slippery and hard throw- that probably favors Ohio State and Fields. 

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2019, 02:55:18 PM »
all I have to say is this is the best depth at WR that I’ve seen from Michigan maybe ever. 

Mike Sainistril and Giles Jackson continue to show they need more reps. They have explosion and shiftiness the other WRs just don’t have. These guys both are explosive, quick-twitchy, and have top notch change of direction. These guys should be starting in the slot, not Ronnie Bell.

Nico and DPJ have started to come alive on the outside. Black has actually been the quiet one. Which is a little sad because before all the injuries he was ahead of both of them. 

Ronnie Bell is a very smooth and fluid athlete with really good speed, but his hands are just not consistent enough. Sainistril and Jackson both show better hands and are more explosive. I even think another frosh- Cornelius Johnson needs more playing time. He’s barely played but every time he’s gotten live action he’s flashed big time talent.

I’m thinking more about what Michigan’s offense might look like next year if Nico, Tarik, and DPJ all come back. 

They’ll get Chris Evans back at RB and Zach Charbonnet and Hassan Haskins have been a pretty good freshman duo. Evans brings a shifty, speedy, versatile pass catching dimension those guys lack. Another year under Gattis and Evans at RB back in the fold- as long as all three of the junior WRs come back and Dylan McCaffrey is ready this offense could really go next level next year. 

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2019, 03:36:21 PM »
all I have to say is this is the best depth at WR that I’ve seen from Michigan maybe ever. I know from like 04-08 had a nice stable of WRs


Nico and DPJ have started to come alive on the outside. Black has actually been the quiet one. Which is a little sad because before all the injuries he was ahead of both of them. Yup that's why I think he'll be back next season depending on the Line & QB talent returning


I’m thinking more about what Michigan’s offense might look like next year if Nico, Tarik, and DPJ all come back. Stop torturing yourself,ain't happening DPJ & Nico are headed for The League.I'd be surprised if Collins slips out of the 1st rd

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Re: #2 Ohio State (11-0, 8-0) at #13 Michigan (9-2, 6-2) Game Week
« Reply #97 on: November 26, 2019, 03:46:06 PM »
Honestly I think bad conditions favors Fields. Patterson can run a little bit, but he’s not the runner that Fields is. Fields has better acceleration and top end speed than Patterson.

If it’s miserable conditions and cold and rainy and windy and the ball is slippery and hard throw- that probably favors Ohio State and Fields.
I dunno IMO it hamstrings guys like Young/Fields/Dobbins who are explosive.That being said I like crappy weather Nov/Dec games
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