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Topic: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game

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MaximumSam

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2023, 05:08:37 PM »
Sure, but the "what if" thing is a door that swings wide and lets all kind of unruly things in.  What Allar doesn't fumble?  What if Michigan didn't decide to play the game with one hand tied behind its back?

Ymmv, but for me it was a major statement to go into Happy Valley, refuse to air it out, and just line up and say we're gonna run it again for 5.5 ypc, f*** all y'all, with no signals and no passes you still can't beat us.

Despite the score it felt like Michigan had them all game and knew it, and had the other half of the arsenal waiting to go if needed, but it wasn't. 

Tell you what, if McCord is gonna play like THAT, the OSU/Mich game just got that much more interesting.  That's gonna be some must-see tv. 
I guess, though my thought was that Michigan didn't trust its tackles in pass protection and didn't want to give up any easy ones for PSU. Ohio State did the same thing.

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #71 on: November 12, 2023, 06:21:43 PM »
I can agree with that.  So they went into a shell to be safe, and while it was slow and ugly, it was consistently effective, and it never felt to me like PSU was going to bust anything on the UM defense. 

It was the greatest game of Tressel-ball ever played o.O  

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #72 on: November 12, 2023, 10:55:41 PM »
Reminded me of Florida's win over LSU in 2012.  Ran the ball on the final 25 plays, winning 14-6.
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2023, 12:29:20 AM »
Penn State fired offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich. Coach Franklin, your problems are solved. Brian Ferentz is on the market.

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2023, 08:19:03 AM »
as is Scott Frost
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #75 on: November 13, 2023, 11:51:36 AM »
Reminded me of Florida's win over LSU in 2012.  Ran the ball on the final 25 plays, winning 14-6.

lolz, I remember that.  Florida kept running GT-counter and LSU's backup Mike LB never did figure out what to do with it.  Chavis and the safety kept yelling at him and he was like "Don't worry guys, this is the play I'll get it right.  I won't do that again."  

The world won't remember, but LSU fans will, there was a time Odell Beckham dropped everything.  Very costly in that game.  

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #76 on: November 13, 2023, 12:30:12 PM »
I guess, though my thought was that Michigan didn't trust its tackles in pass protection and didn't want to give up any easy ones for PSU. Ohio State did the same thing.
Chop Robinson's speed off the edge was definitely giving RT Karsen Barnhart major problems early on. But they still could've done things with the pass game and pass protection to counter that- and never even really tried.

Sherrone Moore correctly calculated that- you know what- they can't stop us from running on the gotta have it downs- and their offense is not going to move the ball on our defense at all- so why throw it? 

Only way Penn State could've conceivably won that game was if pressure got to JJ and he panicked and threw a pick 6 or if he took a blindside hit off the edge and had a sack fumble/scoop & score. Literally the only way Penn State was going to win that game. That or a disastrous special teams play from Michigan. So Moore did the right thing in the end imo. Take away unnecessary risk and just run run run, chew clock, minimize risk, keep mistakes to a minimum, play the field position game and walk out with a win.

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #77 on: November 13, 2023, 12:43:19 PM »
last two games vs Penn State....

Blake Corum, 54 carries, 311 yards (5.8 ypc),  4 TDs

Donovan Edwards, 26 carries, 225 yards (8.7 ypc), 3 TDs

JJ McCarthy 15 carries, 91 yards (6.1 ypc)


These 3 players last two games, 95 carries, 627 rushing yards (6.6 YPC), 7 TD's



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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2023, 01:06:45 PM »
If there's anyone who knows a thing or two about fewer receptions than expected, it's Drake Harris

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2023, 01:46:20 PM »
If there's anyone who knows a thing or two about fewer receptions than expected, it's Drake Harris
fact. probably the most disappointing college career for an all-time great HS player from the state of Michigan. Really thought he was going to be a Charles Rogers or Braylon level WR in college. Boy did he disappoint. 

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2023, 02:04:21 PM »
Chop Robinson's speed off the edge was definitely giving RT Karsen Barnhart major problems early on. But they still could've done things with the pass game and pass protection to counter that- and never even really tried.

This Is what I didn’t understand. Obviously Penn State was sending the house and beating the O-line on pass blocking, but why not hit Edwards for some short passes in the middle of the field.

The pass plays I didn’t understand were the little bubble screens to try and stretch the field. That was not an effective way to beat the rush or keep it on its toes.

Penn State is very good defensively. A more experienced qb and a better coach and they’d be undefeated.

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2023, 02:35:27 PM »

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This!   It is scary.  I only wish my team could run all running plays, on the road in a hostile environment, against a great defense, and not only win- but never look close to losing.  And to do it with no material penalties or turnovers.  

As Urban Meyer said-I don’t see any weaknesses.  I don’t know how- or who- is going to beat that. 
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2023, 02:47:29 PM »
fact. probably the most disappointing college career for an all-time great HS player from the state of Michigan. Really thought he was going to be a Charles Rogers or Braylon level WR in college. Boy did he disappoint.
He was also super old for his grade IIRC.  He was already old for his grade, and then his parents held him back.  He was a 20 year old HS senior.  And once he stopped being able to get by on just being older and more physically mature than everyone guarding him, it fell apart

 

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