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847badgerfan

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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #126 on: Today at 09:34:40 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on Today at 09:32:52 AM
Franklin was in the CFB playoff last year

many teams would like to have that problem
That's why I think they will have trouble finding a replacement of their choice. I think they will have to settle.
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #127 on: Today at 09:35:12 AM »
Yeah, the standards have changed.

Getting fired used to mean something.

Now it might mean you run a top 10 program, and the boosters are tired of the plateau.

How many coaches historically would have been fired with Franklin's resume?
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #128 on: Today at 09:35:39 AM »
I'd have kept him another season
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #129 on: Today at 10:49:22 AM »
For that exact reason, it's hard to see what makes the LSU job any less desirable than any other.  The expectations are unrealistic everywhere.  At least BK was run off while not even sniffing the playoffs and putting historically bad defenses on the field.  Penn St. just ran off a guy mid-season after making the playoffs.  He didn't even get 1 full year of failure.  What coach wants to sign up for that any more than LSU's drama? 

The answer is "tons of them." 

They pay so much, we're kidding ourselves to think that a crap-ton of candidates aren't frothing at the mouth to get those gigs.  
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #130 on: Today at 11:03:10 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on Today at 09:32:52 AM
Franklin was in the CFB playoff last year

^^this^^

Quote from: ELA on Today at 09:35:12 AM
Yeah, the standards have changed.

Getting fired used to mean something.

Now it might mean you run a top 10 program, and the boosters are tired of the plateau.

How many coaches historically would have been fired with Franklin's resume?

^^this^^

I also believe the advent of the TWELVE team playoff put coaches like Brian Kelly and James Franklin (and Brent Venables, Lincoln Riley, Mike Norvell, Sherrone Moore, etc) on a more definitive leash. The twelve team playoff gives fan bases, boosters, and athletic directors a hard line on which to act on. Even mid-season. Notice Kelly and Franklin getting the boot once it was plainly clear they weren't playoff bound.

In previous years before the twelve team playoff, they would've coached the rest of the regular season. And going back to the BCS years, would coaches like Franklin or Kelly, who regularly posted 10 and 11 win seasons been shown the door after one down year? Had we instead had a twelve team playoff, I imagine programs like LSU and Texas would've been quicker to move on from Les Miles and Mack Brown. 

When there are only two or even four teams that can play for a Nat'l Championship at the end of the season, fans and boosters and athletic directors will learn to live with a far-and-few-between 5-7 season at time when winning five more games would not put their team any closer to the BCS Championship. Now, a 10-2 top 12 finish puts your team on the same playing field (literally) as those finishing #1 and #2 to end the season.


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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #131 on: Today at 11:13:09 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on Today at 11:03:10 AM
In previous years before the twelve team playoff, they would've coached the rest of the regular season. And going back to the BCS years, would coaches like Franklin or Kelly, who regularly posted 10 and 11 win seasons been shown the door after one down year? Had we instead had a twelve team playoff, I imagine programs like LSU and Texas would've been quicker to move on from Les Miles and Mack Brown.

If there had been a 12 team playoff, most of Mack Brown's Texas teams and Les Miles LSU teams would've been in it, so no, by your own logic, I don't think they would've been quicker to move on. 
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #132 on: Today at 12:39:22 PM »
Midseason firings cheat the fans out of half the season. Are Penn State fans even invested in this season at all anymore? They are already in off season mode, talking about who the next coach is going to be. Sure, they might watch the games out of habit. But it's an interim HC with zero chance of getting the job, and a bunch of Franklin recruits who are going to hit the portal the instant the season ends. 
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« Reply #133 on: Today at 12:50:41 PM »
I would have been more excited about the season had ickel been fired after the Maryland shitshow. Not being cheated at all, like I am now.
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #134 on: Today at 01:01:21 PM »
The Wisconsin situation isn't a midseason vs end of season scenario. 

They are rolling it back. Or so they say. 
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« Reply #135 on: Today at 01:16:56 PM »
Against my wishes, along with many others.

95 percent of the fanbase would have loved to have him gone by now, let alone after the season.

The season is over. Back-to-back losing seasons for the first time since 1992.
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #136 on: Today at 02:16:42 PM »
Yeah, that Maryland game really broke you. 

You were like his biggest fan up until that point. 

Before Maryland Badge :cheer:

Post Maryland Badge :character0029:
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #137 on: Today at 02:22:43 PM »
I'm taking this discussion elsewhere.
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #138 on: Today at 02:57:34 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on Today at 12:39:22 PM
Are Penn State fans even invested in this season at all anymore?
Well after laying another egg they're just directing their froth away from Franklin & in a different direction.John Cooper lost lots of big games but he'd sprinkle in a win here/there.I'd definitely ask back Joe Moorhead in some capacity,the Lions had their best years under Franklin with him at O.C. and he's a Pa. guy
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #139 on: Today at 05:21:16 PM »
My recollection is that every Badger on this board went into this season wary of what it would bring, and looking for evidence of improvement. I know I did--and hopeful, as always. But, yes, the Maryland game exposed just how bad this team is in a way that losses to Alabama and the October slate would not. That said, the back-to-back home shutouts to the Hawkeyes and Buckeyes didn't help.
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