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Topic: 2026 Coaching Carousel

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ELA

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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #112 on: November 11, 2025, 04:49:55 PM »
And anyone taking that job who has literally any other option is holding out for an iron clad buyout.  And you might have to overpay now that the candidate knows he may have to fight for what was contracted to him in court.

It's a great job in a vacuum, that has been downgraded for reasons that they will lose anyway.  Lets not forget that when Saban took the job, it was viewed as a lateral move, but at least he was the in state alpha.  LSU is doing everything possible to make themselves a lateral to MSU again

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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2025, 09:20:51 AM »
if there is the ability to recruit great players it's a great job

will the NIL $$$ be available?
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #114 on: November 12, 2025, 09:32:58 AM »
I mean, sort of? Yes, there are some goof things about the job, namely the backyard talent in a state that has no other major competitors. It's similar to OSU in that regard.

But the game has changed. Access to local talent is important but easily the most declining important factor in the landscape. Access to money is the most important factor now, followed distantly by everything else. I don't know what LSU's situation is there, but if they can't pay Brian Kelly I suspect that isn't wonderful.

In that regard, I agree with you.  I have no idea how LSU will be able to fare in the new environment.  That's still yet tbd and I don't have much of an opinion about that one way or the other. 

I only meant the overly political environment of that job has not changed.  Shit-shows occasionally break out around there, mostly when somebody isn't winning at the clip the powers that be think they should be winning.  When things go bad, there are people with levers-of-power they probably shouldn't have, pulling them when they probably shouldn't.  It doesn't happen often, so in the national consciousness and even in the minds of LSU fans, we forget that it's always lurking there behind the curtain. 

I suspect the job's attractiveness--whatever its level is--doesn't change much because of this.  My contention is that most coaches haven't found out anything new about the job they didn't already know.  I would think it's well known in coaching circles that the LSU job comes with a lot of meddling if you don't win enough, and shady backroom political shenanigans if "they" think you need to go.  I also suspect that coaches have known that same thing for a long time, ergo, this all won't change much.

otoh, there is something to be said for the phenomenon of how you can know about something that happens every now and then, and the difference between that and having just witnessed it.  It could be that I'm more or less correct that in the long term, this won't change much, yet, in the short term, i.e. this current hire, could suffer because of it. 

But I do want to point y'all back to the end of 2015.  The AD tried to fire Les Miles, and he did, sort of, except half of the board revolted, Les beat A&M (again, lol) before the AD had gathered his full measures of gonads to make it official, and.....he wasn't fired?  Maybe?  It was chaos and turmoil, and nobody could agree on if he was staying or going, or who had the power to send him packing if he was gone.  It was certainly public, though the maybe the media didn't stoke the fires as much as now for whatever reason, possibly including, but not limited to, Gov. Jindal at the time had the sense not to make his machinations public, if he even cared or was involved.  Then the 2016 season started and Les was still coaching, but with civil war still going on, and with no firm backing of the administration, and it was kind of understood, only an NC will get you out of this.  Welp, a season-opening loss to Wisconsin later, the anti-Les faction strong-armed the supporting faction and proceeded with the most transparent coup possible.  They had no real cause, and they couldn't hang their hat on anything in 2015, so they waited until LSU lost to Auburn in week 4, and poof, he had to be fired for that.  Because losing to Auburn is not something LSU ever does (eye roll).  Anyway.....there's more to recap there, but it was a farce, not unlike this current one, except it lasted longer. 

And it's not the only other one I've witnessed in my lifetime. 

Meh......it's Louisiana, it's LSU.  I know this, they know this, I think coaches know this.  It's a great job.....if you win.  If you don't, it may well be a worse job than most.  My $0.02
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #115 on: November 12, 2025, 09:35:34 AM »
I mean, sort of? Yes, there are some goof things about the job, namely the backyard talent in a state that has no other major competitors. It's similar to OSU in that regard.

But the game has changed. Access to local talent is important but easily the most declining important factor in the landscape. Access to money is the most important factor now, followed distantly by everything else. I don't know what LSU's situation is there, but if they can't pay Brian Kelly I suspect that isn't wonderful.


Forgot to add:  I'm pretty confident in saying it's not that LSU can't pay Kelly, it's that they don't want to.  

At any rate, whatever they wind up paying him, according to our talking heads, is going to come from Todd Graves, not the ath. dept.


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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #116 on: November 12, 2025, 09:43:26 AM »
in my opinion, a GREAT way for billionaires to share the wealth and trickle down $$$ into the economy
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #117 on: November 12, 2025, 09:51:52 AM »
Yup because failed coaches deserve the gawdy hauls that Fisher/Franklin limped away with.I'm sure that will trickle down to the rest of us
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #118 on: November 12, 2025, 10:45:03 AM »
deserves has got nuttin to do with it
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #119 on: November 12, 2025, 02:35:07 PM »

OK William Munny out of Missouri who has killed women and children and just about everything that has walked or crawled at one time or another.
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #120 on: November 12, 2025, 02:43:56 PM »
What we have here is failure to communicate.  Some men, you just can’t reach. 
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #121 on: November 12, 2025, 09:21:01 PM »
tougher to communicate w/o the mouse
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2025, 10:04:39 PM »
I'd like to know where they're pulling all these odds for this HC job or that one.  Truly bizarre.
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #123 on: November 12, 2025, 10:10:04 PM »
outta Jimmy da Greek's backside
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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #124 on: Today at 09:08:46 AM »
James Franklin's name being floated for various jobs is interesting to me.

Since he was just fired by PSU, it doesn't seem like he'd be a hot commodity, since off the top of my head, fired cfb coaches tend to need some reputation rehab before they pull HC gigs again.  

It also reminds me that the whole HC-getting-fired perception is different in college ball than the NFL.  Seems like there's no shortage of examples of NFL HCs getting fired and then going to coach other teams.  There's many examples of them taking coordinator jobs as well, but a number of HCs too.  Makes me wonder why the NFL is frequently content with re-treads while the cfb world shuns a recently fired guy more.  

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Re: 2026 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #125 on: Today at 09:32:52 AM »
Franklin was in the CFB playoff last year

many teams would like to have that problem
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