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Topic: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation

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ELA

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2025, 10:30:01 AM »
NOVEMBER 9 POLL
  • OHIO STATE (9-0) 1
  • Texas (8-1) 2
  • Georgia (8-1) 3
  • OREGON (8-1) 4
  • Clemson (8-1) 5
  • MINNESOTA (8-1) 6
  • Tennessee (7-2) 7
  • ILLINOIS (7-2) 8
  • MICHIGAN (7-2) 9
  • Alabama (7-2) 10
  • Ole Miss (8-2) 12
  • PENN STATE (7-2) 13
  • Boston College (8-2) 14
  • Notre Dame (7-2) 15
  • Missouri (7-2) 16
  • NEBRASKA (8-2) 17
  • INDIANA (7-3) 11
  • Georgia Tech (7-2) 19
  • UNLV (9-0) 20
  • James Madison (8-0) 21
  • Oklahoma (6-3) 22
  • Vanderbilt (7-3) 23
  • Louisville (6-3) 24
  • Miami (6-3) 25
  • Houston (7-3) -

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2025, 01:18:59 PM »
Just reading this now. 

Damn, @ELA . Whatever computer is simulating this season sure does like the Gophers. Another win down at Mordor after not getting one since the Clinton administration? 

And as for the Big 8, the Big 8 of peak Nebraska ain't coming back either. That consisted of Nebraska, OU, one other halfway decent team (would rotate between Colorado, Missouri, and Okie State), and 5 rotten, ends-blown-out tomato cans. 

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2025, 02:18:55 PM »
Just randomness.

Houston is in 1st in the Big XII, despite ranking #14 of 16 in ratings

Minnesota and Wisconsin are #11 and #12 in the Big Ten in the ratings, and yet Minnesota is 8-1 and ranked #6, while Wisconsin is 3-6 and about to fire Fickell

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #101 on: August 12, 2025, 10:23:02 AM »
Grr, had issues with browser crashing but hopefully I can get this to post this time.  

Per @ELA 's simulation the B1G standings heading into the last three weeks are:

  • 6-0 Ohio State:  vs UCLA, vs RU, at M
  • 5-1 Minnesota:  at Ore, at NU, vs UW
  • 5-1 Oregon:  vs MN, vs USC, at UDub
  • 5-1 Michigan:  at NU, at UMD, vs tOSU
  • 5-2 Nebraska:  at UCLA, at PSU, vs IA
  • 4-2 Illinois:  vs UMD, at UW, vs NU
  • 4-2 Penn State:  at MSU, vs UNL, at RU
  • 4-2 USC:  vs IA, at Ore, vs UCLA
  • 4-3 Indiana:  vs UW, off, at PU
  • 3-3 Iowa:  at USC, vs MSU, at UNL
All other teams are mathematically eliminated from the CG because they have >3 losses while Ohio State and the MN/Ore winner can do no worse than 6-3.  

As a practical matter the teams with more than one loss are likely out of the running because:
  • tOSU isn't likely to lose at home to UCLA or RU so their 'worst case' is 8-1
  • Minnesota isn't likely to lose to NU nor at home to UW and Ore isn't likely to lose at home to USC nor to UDub so the 'worst case' for the Ore/MN winner is 8-1
The most likely results are either:
  • Ohio State alone in first at 9-0 and Oregon alone in second at 8-1 with the Bucks and Ducks playing in the CG.  
  • Ohio State, Oregon, and Michigan all tied at 8-1.  The tiebreakers are weird.  H2H2H favors Michigan as they are 1-0 (beat tOSU, didn't play Ore) while Oregon is 0-0 (didn't play either) and tOSU is 0-1 (lost to M, didn't play Ore) but H2H only prevails if all teams played each other (they didn't) or if one team beat each of the others (didn't happen).  

The multi-team tiebreakers are:
  • H2H but only if all played each other or if one defeated all the others, n/a.  
  • winning percentage against common conference opponents.  They are all perfect against common conference opponents because none of them lost to a team that the other two played, n/a.  
  • winning percentage against the common opponent placed highest in the standings, then the next, etc n/a.  
  • cumulative conference winning percentage of conference opponents.  Just eyeballing it without actually running the numbers I *think* this would leave Michigan out because looking at ELA's standings, they played nearly all of the B1G's worst teams.  


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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #102 on: August 12, 2025, 10:37:34 AM »
FWIW:
Within this scenario the cumulative records of conference opponents for tOSU, Ore, and M are:

  • 26-30 Ohio State's opponents
  • 25-31 Oregon's opponents
  • 22-34 Michigan's opponents



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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #103 on: August 14, 2025, 02:12:51 PM »
WEEK TWELVE
Tuesday, November 11
Akron d. Kent State
Western Michigan d. Ohio

Wednesday, November 12
Buffalo d. Central Michigan
Miami(Ohio) d. Toledo
Northern Illinois d. Massachusetts

Thursday, November 13
Troy d. Old Dominion

Friday, November 14
#4 OREGON d. #6 MINNESOTA
#23 Louisville d. #5 Clemson

Saturday, November 15
ESPN College Gameday, live from Athens, GA
#3 Georgia d. #2 Texas

#1 OHIO STATE d. UCLA
#7 Tennessee d. NM State
#8 ILLINOIS d. MARYLAND
#9 MICHIGAN d. NORTHWESTERN
#21 Oklahoma d. #10 Alabama
#11 Ole Miss d. Florida
#12 PENN STATE d. MICHIGAN STATE
#13 Boston College d. #18 Georgia Tech
#14 Notre Dame d. Pittsburgh
#15 Missouri d. Mississippi State
#17 INDIANA d. WISCONSIN
#19 UNLV d. Utah State
#20 James Madison d. Appalachian State
#24 Miami d. NC State

Air Force d. Connecticut
Arizona State d. West Virginia
Baylor d. Utah
BYU d. TCU
Cincinnati d. Arizona
Eastern Michigan d. Ball State
Florida State d. Virginia Tech
Fresno State d. Wyoming
Georgia Southern d. Coastal Carolina
Kennesaw State d. Jacksonville State
Kentucky d. Tennessee Tech
Liberty d. FIU
LSU d. Arkansas
Marshall d. Georgia State
Memphis d. East Carolina
Middle Tennessee d. Western Kentucky
Nevada d. San Jose State
New Mexico d. Colorado State
North Carolina d. Wake Forest
North Texas d. UAB
Oklahoma State d. Kansas State
Oregon State d. Tulsa
San Diego State d. Boise State
Sam Houston d. Delaware
South Carolina d. Texas A&M
South Florida d. Navy
Texas State d. Southern Miss
Texas Tech d. Central Florida
Tulane d. Florida Atlantic
UL Monroe d. South Alabama
USC d. IOWA
UTEP d. Missouri State
UTSA d. Charlotte
Virginia d. Duke
WASHINGTON d. PURDUE
Washington State d. Louisiana Tech

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #104 on: August 14, 2025, 02:17:04 PM »



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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2025, 02:55:44 PM »
NOVEMBER 16 POLL
  • OHIO STATE (10-0) 1
  • Georgia (9-1) 3
  • OREGON (9-1) 4
  • Texas (8-2) 2
  • Tennessee (8-2) 7
  • ILLINOIS (8-2) 8
  • MICHIGAN (8-2) 9
  • Ole Miss (9-2) 11
  • PENN STATE (8-2) 12
  • Boston College (9-2) 13
  • MINNESOTA (8-2) 6
  • Notre Dame (8-2) 14
  • Clemson (8-2) 5
  • Missouri (8-2) 15
  • NEBRASKA (8-2) 16
  • INDIANA (8-3) 17
  • Oklahoma (7-3) 21
  • Alabama (7-3) 10
  • UNLV (10-0) 19
  • James Madison (9-0) 20
  • Louisville (7-3) 23
  • Vanderbilt (7-3) 22
  • Miami (7-3) 24
  • Houston (7-3) 25
  • USC (7-3) -




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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2025, 03:22:03 PM »

#3 Georgia d. #2 Texas
This whole thing is BULLSHIT, man!

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2025, 03:41:16 PM »
This whole thing is BULLSHIT, man!


Kinda digging it myself.




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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2025, 04:29:21 PM »
Based on this simulation the three-loss teams are now all but mathematically eliminated.  It doesn't matter for Iowa since they picked up a fourth loss in week 10 anyway but here are the standings and remaining games for the mathematical contenders:

  • 7-0 Ohio State:  vs RU, at M
  • 6-1 Oregon:  vs USC, at UDub
  • 6-1 Michigan:  at UMD, vs tOSU
  • 5-2 Illinois:  at UW, vs NU
  • 5-2 Minnesota:  at NU, vs UW
  • 5-2 Nebraska:  at PSU, vs IA
  • 5-2 Penn State:  vs UNL, at RU
  • 5-2 Southern California:  at Ore, vs UCLA
  • 5-3 Indiana:  off, at PU
Indiana is in the race mathematically but for all practical purposes they are out.  They can't catch Ohio State and they could only tie Oregon and Michigan but they would need BOTH Oregon and Michigan to lose out and they would also need all of IL, MN, UNL, PSU, and USC to each lose at least one game.  

As a practical matter it isn't very likely that tOSU or Oregon will lose at home to RU (2-5) or USC (5-2) or that Michigan will lose on the road to Maryland (2-5).  If they all win this week then the only way for a 2-loss team to get in the mix would be for Oregon (at UDub) and Michigan (vs tOSU) to both lose on the final weekend.  Even that would only create a tie between Oregon, Michigan, and any of IL, MN, UNL, and PSU that manage to win out.  

Oregon is extremely likely to win out and the Buckeyes and Wolverines are very likely to win their week-11 games which only leaves two reasonably likely possibilities:
  • Ohio State beats Michigan and the CG is between 9-0 tOSU and 8-1 Oregon or
  • Michigan beats Ohio State and there is a three-way tie at 8-1 between the Ducks, Bucks, and Wolverines.  
In the event of the three-way tie, H2H2H does not apply since they didn't all play and no team beat the other two so it goes through a series of non-decisive tiebreakers and lands on Cumulative Conference record of conference opponents.  Here is an update on that:
  • 30-34 Ohio State's opponents
  • 29-35 Oregon's opponents
  • 25-39 Michigan's opponents

I don't *THINK* that Michigan's opponents could possibly make up that much ground which means that if the Bucks and Ducks both win this weekend they more-or-less lock up CG bids.  


I am also fairly certain that, in this simulation, Ohio State would mathematically lock up a CG bid with a win this weekend at home over Rutgers because at that point the worst they could do would be a three-way tie with Oregon and Michigan and while Oregon's opponents might catch Ohio State's opponents, Michigan's can't so the Buckeyes would go either as outright regular season champions or as winners of the tiebreaker.  

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #109 on: August 15, 2025, 08:02:28 PM »
WEEK THIRTEEN
Tuesday, November 18
Bowling Green d. Akron
Northern Illinois d. Western Michigan
Ohio d. Massachusetts

Wednesday, November 19
Central Michigan d. Kent State
Miami(Ohio) d. Buffalo

Thursday, November 20
Arkansas State d. Louisiana

Friday, November 21
#19 UNLV d. Hawaii

NC State d. Florida State

Saturday, November 22
ESPN College Gameday, live from State College, PA
#9 PENN STATE d. #15 NEBRASKA

#1 OHIO STATE d. RUTGERS
#2 Georgia d. Charlotte
#3 OREGON d. #25 USC
#4 Texas d. Arkansas
Florida d. #5 Tennessee
#6 ILLINOIS d. WISCONSIN
MARYLAND d. #7 MICHIGAN
#11 MINNESOTA d. NORTHWESTERN
#12 Notre Dame d. Syracuse
#13 Clemson d. Furman
#17 Oklahoma d. #14 Missouri
#18 Alabama d. Eastern Illinois
#20 James Madison d. Washington State
SMU d. #21 Louisville
#22 Vanderbilt d. Kentucky
#23 Miami d. Virginia Tech
#24 Houston d. TCU

Air Force d. New Mexico
Arizona State d. Colorado
Army d. Tulsa
Auburn d. Mercer
Baylor d. Arizona
Cincinnati d. BYU
Colorado State d. Boise State
Florida Atlantic d. Connecticut
Fresno State d. Utah State
Georgia Southern d. Old Dominion
Georgia State d. Troy
Georgia Tech d. Pittsburgh
IOWA d. MICHIGAN STATE
Jacksonville State d. FIU
Kansas d. Iowa State
Kansas State d. Utah
Kennesaw State d. Missouri State
Louisiana Tech d. Liberty
Marshall d. Appalachian State
Middle Tennessee d. Sam Houston
North Carolina d. Duke
Oklahoma State d. Central Florida
Rice d. North Texas
San Diego State d. San Jose State
South Alabama d. Southern Miss
South Carolina d. Coastal Carolina
Stanford d. California
Texas State d. UL Monroe
Toledo d. Ball State
Tulane d. Temple
UAB d. South Florida
UCLA d. WASHINGTON
UTEP d. NM State
UTSA d. East Carolina
Wake Forest d. Delaware
Western Kentucky d. LSU
Wyoming d. Nevada

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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #110 on: August 15, 2025, 08:07:37 PM »



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Re: 2025 SP+/FPI season simulation
« Reply #111 on: August 15, 2025, 08:08:17 PM »
Western Kentucky d. LSU
Brian Kelly = done

 

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