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« Reply #182 on: April 27, 2025, 01:06:37 PM »
still shocked he didn’t get drafted- he’s uber talented and shown more than enough flashes of what he could be. Michigan coaching staff had no idea how to properly use his skill set.
You old enough to remember Duane Thomas of the Cowboys? maybe the same thing, but Edwards appeared to have another gear when he wanted to ramp it up. Cleveland should offer him. Unfortunately Chubb's done and that's a damn shame a true grinder and class act
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« Reply #183 on: April 27, 2025, 06:36:28 PM »
Seen lots of comments/content about CLE drafting 2 QBs, but they also drafted 2 of the top handful of RBs.  Just as odd to draft Judkins and Sampson, imo.

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« Reply #184 on: April 28, 2025, 08:05:57 AM »
Take 1RB/1QB and split the other two with OL & WR
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« Reply #185 on: April 28, 2025, 08:15:11 AM »
Graham Mertz got drafted. Man, he was so misused in Madison. Unreal.
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« Reply #186 on: April 28, 2025, 11:50:15 AM »
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« Reply #187 on: April 28, 2025, 11:55:15 AM »
No, that's ALL draft picks, not just first rounders.

Looks like 20% of picks are considered "good", "great", or "legendary". I'd have to look at the data set, but my guess is that AT least half of those were round 1 picks. And that far below 10% of those are 7th rounders.

Given that the first round is 1/7th of the draft, or 14.2%, and 20% of picks are good, great, or legendary, it would seem to me that your first rounder is "good" or better more often than not.

You beat me to it.  

Also, I saw a guy compile the data over a couple previous decades (although this was probably 8-9 years ago itself), which illustrated that guys drafted past the 3rd round (I think.....or even might've been the 2nd round), have a pretty high likelihood of not getting a second contract after the rookie one.  I believe that was his metric for "bust," or at least "not a useful pick" if I remember it correctly.  It really highlighted the unlikelihood of becoming a mainstay, let alone a star, if you're not drafted by day 2.  

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« Reply #188 on: April 28, 2025, 12:05:11 PM »
Quinn Ewers should've stayed in school one more year. Ewers went from the #1 overall player in the 2021 class to drafted in the 7th round. Yikes.

Ewers is 6'2, 210 ish- plenty of height and size but not the 6'5, 230 adonis build. Ewers has plenty of arm strength to play in the NFL- but not a Josh Allen or Mahomes type absolute rocket launcher. Ewers can move a little bit- but he's not really that athletic. Still blows my mind he was a 7th round pick. He's better than a lot of the QB's drafted ahead of him imo. Maybe the injury history and him not quite living up to expectations and being a good college QB with flashes of great hurt him. If I'm picking players I am 100% drafting him before Tyler Shough, Dillon Gabriel, or Graham Mertz. Wtf are we doing here people.

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« Reply #189 on: April 28, 2025, 12:09:47 PM »
Quinn Ewers should've stayed in school one more year. Ewers went from the #1 overall player in the 2021 class to drafted in the 7th round. Yikes.

Ewers is 6'2, 210 ish- plenty of height and size but not the 6'5, 230 adonis build. Ewers has plenty of arm strength to play in the NFL- but not a Josh Allen or Mahomes type absolute rocket launcher. Ewers can move a little bit- but he's not really that athletic. Still blows my mind he was a 7th round pick. He's better than a lot of the QB's drafted ahead of him imo. Maybe the injury history and him not quite living up to expectations and being a good college QB with flashes of great hurt him. If I'm picking players I am 100% drafting him before Tyler Shough, Dillon Gabriel, or Graham Mertz. Wtf are we doing here people.
Actually I think he should have come out last year.  Once he was playing good teams at the highest levels, his limitations became apparent.  Another year at a place like Texas wasn't going to help him, nor do I think dropping down to a lower level program would make him look any better in the eyes of the NFL scouts.

Sadly, for him, the decision to stay on and play one more year in college, really hurt him.

I certainly wish him the best and hope he can excel beyond his draft status.

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« Reply #190 on: April 28, 2025, 12:10:40 PM »
Seen lots of comments/content about CLE drafting 2 QBs, but they also drafted 2 of the top handful of RBs.  Just as odd to draft Judkins and Sampson, imo.
don't like taking 2 QB's because you can only play one. And taking Dillon Gabriel in the 3rd round was a waste of a pick imo. Don't like it at all. Gabriel is a 6th round pick that they took in the 3rd round. Shredder will smoke his ass in practice and Gabriel won't even wind up making the team imo.

don't mind taking 2 RB's though. Nick Chubb's first 5 years were incredible, but he's nearly 30 and his last two seasons he's coming off major injuries and he had major injuries in college. His days are probably numbered with the Browns. They need RB's and you can split carries with RBs in the NFL. see: the Detroit Lions.

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« Reply #191 on: April 28, 2025, 12:15:31 PM »
Quinn Ewers should've stayed in school one more year. Ewers went from the #1 overall player in the 2021 class to drafted in the 7th round. Yikes.

Ewers is 6'2, 210 ish- plenty of height and size but not the 6'5, 230 adonis build. Ewers has plenty of arm strength to play in the NFL- but not a Josh Allen or Mahomes type absolute rocket launcher. Ewers can move a little bit- but he's not really that athletic. Still blows my mind he was a 7th round pick. He's better than a lot of the QB's drafted ahead of him imo. Maybe the injury history and him not quite living up to expectations and being a good college QB with flashes of great hurt him. If I'm picking players I am 100% drafting him before Tyler Shough, Dillon Gabriel, or Graham Mertz. Wtf are we doing here people.
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« Reply #192 on: April 28, 2025, 12:16:47 PM »
Actually I think he should have come out last year.  Once he was playing good teams at the highest levels, his limitations became apparent.  Another year at a place like Texas wasn't going to help him, nor do I think dropping down to a lower level program would make him look any better in the eyes of the NFL scouts.

Sadly, for him, the decision to stay on and play one more year in college, really hurt him.

I certainly wish him the best and hope he can excel beyond his draft status.
maybe. I'll tell you what....think he's a STEAL in the 7th round for Miami. would not be surprised at all to see him get a shot at a lot of playing time due to Tua constantly being injured/concussed and play way better with that coach that scheme and those weapons than his 7th round draft slot.

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« Reply #193 on: April 28, 2025, 12:19:00 PM »
Both Carson Beck and Ewers were hurt by delaying their draft a year.

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« Reply #194 on: April 28, 2025, 12:21:42 PM »
Both Carson Beck and Ewers were hurt by delaying their draft a year.
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« Reply #195 on: April 28, 2025, 12:22:44 PM »
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the fact that Donovan Edwards didn't get drafted still kind of blows my mind. His RAS athletic score (which is an overall score that tries to measure overall athleticism- not just straigh-tline speed) was a 9.78 out of a possible 10.00- which places him in the top 50 (#47) most athletic RB prospects out of nearly 2,200 RB prospects that have tested at the combine since 1987. 

IF he had zero production to back that up that'd be one thing- but Edwards has plenty of production and he flashed his considerable talent time and time again. He should've been drafted. Think he really screwed up signing with the Jets. He needed to sign with a team that involves the RB in the passing game.

 

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