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ELA

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2025, 04:21:06 PM »
FIFTH ROUND
  • 139. VIKINGS - CB Quincy Riley, Louisville
  • 140. PANTHERS - OT AJANI CONELIUS, OREGON
  • 141. TITANS - OLB Smael Mondon Jr., Georgia
  • 142. JAGUARS - RB Jarquez Hunter, Auburn
  • 143. RAIDERS - ILB Danny Stutsman, Oklahoma
  • 144. PATRIOTS - OG Willie Lampkin, North Carolina
  • 145. JETS - CB Zah Frazier, UTSA
  • 146. PANTHERS - S Marques Sigle, Kansas State
  • 147. 49ERS - RB Brashard Smith, SMU
  • 148. BEARS - WR Theo Wease Jr., Missouri
  • 149. COWBOYS - OLB Jack Kiser, Notre Dame
  • 150. DOLPHINS - EDGE Elijah Roberts, SMU
  • 151. COLTS - OLB KAIN MEDRANO, UCLA

Seahawks trade Pick #152 for two 6th Round (#190 and #195)
  • 152. RAMS - QB WILL HOWARD, OHIO STATE
  • 153. BENGALS - OG Miles Frazier, LSU
  • 154. GIANTS - EDGE Kaimon Rucker, North Carolina
  • 155. DOLPHINS - OG Dylan Fairchild, Georgia
  • 156. STEELERS - RB Trevor Etienne, Georgia
  • 157. BUCCANEERS - WR Dont'e Thornton, Tennessee
  • 158. CHARGERS - CB Cobee Bryant, Kansas
  • 159. PACKERS - DT YAHYA BLACK, IOWA
  • 160. 49ERS - WR PAT BRYANT, ILLINOIS
  • 161. EAGLES - WR Isaac TeSlaa, Arkansas
  • 162. JETS - QB Kyle McCord, Syracuse
  • 163. PANTHERS - CB Upton Stout, Western Kentucky
  • 164. EAGLES - OG Jackson Slater, Sacramento State
  • 165. EAGLES - CB JAYLIN SMITH, USC
  • 166. TEXANS - RB KALEL MULLINGS, MICHIGAN
  • 167. TITANS - WR Jaylin Lane, Virginia Tech
  • 168. EAGLES - OT Logan Brown, Kansas
  • 169. BILLS - OT Chase Lundt, Connecticut
  • 170. BILLS - ILB Shemar James, Florida
  • 171. PATRIOTS - DT TY HAMILTON, OHIO STATE
  • 172. SEAHAWKS - IOL Clay Webb, Jacksonville State
  • 173. BILLS - OG CONNOR COLBY, IOWA
  • 174. COWBOYS - EDGE JAH JOYNER, MINNESOTA
  • 175. SEAHAWKS - TE Oronde Gadsden, Syracuse
  • 176. RAVENS - S Kitan Crawford, Nevada

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2025, 04:31:17 PM »
I've heard some people say Campbell could fall due to a shorter than ideal wingspan for an NFL OT. 
Then the Browns will trade up to no 1 and get him since they have no 1s to piss away now that they've been deshauned
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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2025, 04:33:28 PM »
Pretty funny Jimmy just kept pounding home the fact some guys aren't the biggest/fastest/smartest/strongest - just much better than those that appear so

Seems to be an assumption that kind of stuff will matter in the league where it may not have in college.  We've had a number of collegiate stand-outs in my lifetime who had none of the stars and none of the measurables.....they could just play, and they did great in Baton Rouge.  I can't think of any where it translated to the NFL.  A lot of them got shots, but their ability to "play" just couldn't bail them out when all the other athletes were the elite of the elite, I guess.  

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2025, 04:44:46 PM »
Seems to be an assumption that kind of stuff will matter in the league where it may not have in college.  We've had a number of collegiate stand-outs in my lifetime who had none of the stars and none of the measurables.....they could just play, and they did great in Baton Rouge.  I can't think of any where it translated to the NFL.  A lot of them got shots, but their ability to "play" just couldn't bail them out when all the other athletes were the elite of the elite, I guess. 
Yeah. Because the guys who make it at that level can all just "play", AND they have all the other elite measurables to go along with it. 

It's even true at QB. You simply can't make it in the NFL if you can't make all the throws, because windows close too quickly at that level if you don't have the arm strength. And if there's an area of the field you can't attack because you can't make the throw, defenses learn that pretty quickly and get better at taking away the rest of the field because they don't have to worry about those throws. 

That doesn't mean you have to be able throw it 70 yards from your knees. But there's a certain minimum level, and you'll get eaten alive in the NFL if you're below it. 

On the other hand, I think the story is largely about the fact that if you have ALL those measurables but you can't just "play", the measurables are worthless. You have to have both. 

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« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2025, 07:24:11 PM »
Yeah. Because the guys who make it at that level can all just "play", AND they have all the other elite measurables to go along with it.

It's even true at QB. You simply can't make it in the NFL if you can't make all the throws, because windows close too quickly at that level if you don't have the arm strength. And if there's an area of the field you can't attack because you can't make the throw, defenses learn that pretty quickly and get better at taking away the rest of the field because they don't have to worry about those throws.

That doesn't mean you have to be able throw it 70 yards from your knees. But there's a certain minimum level, and you'll get eaten alive in the NFL if you're below it.

On the other hand, I think the story is largely about the fact that if you have ALL those measurables but you can't just "play", the measurables are worthless. You have to have both.
well yeah that's obvious- there are minimum thresholds but these NFL GM's/Scouts go way over board with this stuff and overthink shit to the nth degree. I don't care if a 6'6, 310+ lbs OT or 6'6, 260+ lbs DE has arms that are an inch or two short. I don't care if a 6'2, 200+ lbs CB doesn't run a 4.3....can all of the above move fluidly, are they athletic enough and meet those min thresholds and more importantly can they actually play the game at a high level. If a CB or WR runs a 4.5 it's not a big deal. At all. Now if they run a 4.7 or 4.8....well then it might be......

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2025, 07:39:17 PM »
SIXTH ROUND
  • 177. BILLS - QB Tyler Shough, Louisville
  • 178. TITANS - S HUNTER WOHLER, WISCONSIN
  • 179. BROWNS - DL Tim Smith, Alabama
  • 180. RAIDERS - S Craig Woodson, California
  • 181. CHARGERS - RB Tahj Brooks, Texas Tech
  • 182. JAGUARS - QB DILLON GABRIEL, OREGON

Ravens trade #183 Pick and 6th Round (Pick #212) to Jets for Pick #186 and 6th Round (#207)
  • 183. JETS - DE Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Georgia

Saints trade Pick #184 to Jaguars for Pick #194 and 7th Round (#221)
  • 184. SAINTS - DE Tonka Hemingway, South Carolina
  • 185. STEELERS - OT JACK NELSON, WISCONSIN
  • 186. RAVENS - WR Kobe Hudson, Central Florida
  • 187. VIKINGS - CB TOMMI HILL, NEBRASKA
  • 188. SEAHAWKS - ILB JAY HIGGINS, IOWA
  • 189. COLTS - CB Mac McWilliams, Central Florida
  • 190. SEAHAWKS - RB LeQuint Allen, Syracuse
  • 191. BRONCOS - CB Alijah Huzzie, North Carolina
  • 192. BROWNS - LB KOBE KING, PENN STATE
  • 193. BENGALS - TE Ben Yurosek, Georgia
  • 194. JAGUARS - OG Jacob Bayer, Arkansas State
  • 195. SEAHAWKS - OLB TYREEM POWELL, RUTGERS
  • 196. LIONS - IOL TYLER COOPER, MINNESOTA
  • 197. BRONCOS - CB Mello Dotson, Kansas
  • 198. PACKERS - OT Xavier Truss, Georgia
  • 199. CHARGERS - LB Karene Reid, Utah
  • 200. BROWNS - CB JABBAR MUHAMMAD, OREGON
  • 201. RAMS - CB B.J. Adams, Central Florida
  • 202. RAMS - RB JORDAN JAMES, OREGON
  • 203. RAVENS - TE Gavin Bartholomew, Pittsburgh
  • 204. PANTHERS - TE MOLIKI MOTAVEO, UCLA
  • 205. COMMANDERS - S Malachi Moore, Alabama

Bills trade Pick #206 to Raiders for Pick #213 and #215
  • 206. RAIDERS - DE Fadil Diggs, Syracuse
  • 207. JETS - DL TY ROBINSON, NEBRASKA
  • 208. BRONCOS - TE Jackson Hawes, Georgia Tech
  • 209. CHARGERS - OG Luke Kandra, Cincinnati
  • 210. RAVENS - OLB CODY SIMON, OHIO STATE
  • 211. COWBOYS - CB O'Donnell Fortune, South Carolina
  • 212. RAVENS - OT Jalen Travis, Iowa State
  • 213. BILLS - TE C.J. Dippre, Alabama
  • 214. CHARGERS - OT Brandon Crenshaw Dickson, Florida

Bills trade Pick #215 to Saints for two 7th Round Picks (#221 and #248)
  • 215. SAINTS - RB JO'QUAVIOUS MARKS, USC
  • 216. BROWNS - OC SETH MCLAUGHLIN, OHIO STATE

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2025, 08:00:42 PM »
well yeah that's obvious- there are minimum thresholds but these NFL GM's/Scouts go way over board with this stuff and overthink shit to the nth degree. I don't care if a 6'6, 310+ lbs OT or 6'6, 260+ lbs DE has arms that are an inch or two short. I don't care if a 6'2, 200+ lbs CB doesn't run a 4.3....can all of the above move fluidly, are they athletic enough and meet those min thresholds and more importantly can they actually play the game at a high level. If a CB or WR runs a 4.5 it's not a big deal. At all. Now if they run a 4.7 or 4.8....well then it might be......
Well yeah...

At the margins, I'd think it's important to lean towards "can the dude just flat out PLAY?" over "are his arms an inch or two short??"

I think this is where some GMs overthink things trying to compare two 1st round prospects 5 spots apart on "mock" boards, taking the athletic freak over the guy who just flat out produces. 

But it's completely different discussion than someone in the 2nd round vs someone in the 6th. And it's also a completely different discussion from what @MikeDeTiger brought up, which is guys who have no STARZ coming out of HS because their measurables suck, but can produce at the college level--and yet ultimately run into a talent deficit too significant at the NFL level to produce. 

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #77 on: April 18, 2025, 10:31:18 AM »
SEVENTH ROUND

  • 217. COWBOYS - OT Carson Vinson, Alabama A&M


Falcons trade Pick #218 to Packers for Picks #237 and 250

  • 218. PACKERS - RB Devin Neal, Kansas
  • 219. GIANTS - CB Bilhal Kone, Western Michigan
  • 220. PATRIOTS - DT Cam Jackson, Florida


Bills trade Pick #221 and #248 to Cardinals for Picks #223 and #225

  • 221. CARDINALS - RB Raheim Sanders, South Carolina
  • 222. RAIDERS - OC JONAH MONHEIM, USC


Bills trade Pick #223 to Dolphins for Pick #224 and Pick #253

  • 223. DOLPHINS - RB Jaydon Blue, Texas


Bills trade Pick #224 to Lions for Pick #228 and Pick #244

  • 224. LIONS - RB Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State


Bills trade Pick #225 to Falcons for Picks #242 and #250

  • 225. FALCONS - RB DONOVAN EDWARDS, MICHIGAN
  • 226. CHIEFS - CB JORDAN HANCOCK, OHIO STATE
  • 227. 49ERS - OG Garrett Dellinger, LSU
  • 228. BILLS - OC Joshua Gray, Oregon State
  • 229. STEELERS - DL Zeek Biggers, Georgia Tech
  • 230. PANTHERS - ILB Jamon Dumas-Johnson, Kentucky
  • 231. DOLPHINS - ILB Teddy Buchananan, California


Colts trade Pick #232 to Texans for Pick #236 and #241

  • 232. TEXANS - DE Tyler Batty, BYU
  • 233. BEARS - CB ROBERT LONGERBEAM, RUTGERS
  • 234. SEAHAWKS - P James Burnip, Alabama
  • 235. BUCCANEERS - DL Howard Cross III, Notre Dame


Colts trade Pick #236 to Cowboys for Picks #239 and 248

  • 236. COWBOYS - TE Jake Briningstool, Clemson


Falcons trade Pick #237 to Colts for Picks #239 and #248

  • 237. COLTS - OT HOLLIN PIERCE, RUTGERS
  • 238. PATRIOTS - TE Jalin Conyers, Texas Tech
  • 239. FALCONS - OLB Collin Oliver, Oklahoma State
  • 240. BEARS - CB Jason Marshall, Florida
  • 241. COLTS - QB Riley Leonard, Notre Dame
  • 242. BILLS - OLB Nick Martin, Oklahoma State
  • 243. RAVENS - RB Marcus Yarns, Delaware
  • 244. BILLS - K Ryan Fitzgerald, Florida State
  • 245. JAGUARS - ILB CODY LINDENBURG, MINNESOTA
  • 246. GIANTS - WR KADEN PRATHER, MARYLAND
  • 247. COWBOYS - DL Eric Gregory, Arkansas
  • 248. FALCONS - WR Ricky White III, UNLV
  • 249. 49ERS - S JAYLEN REED, PENN STATE
  • 250. BILLS - DE Riley Mills, Notre Dame
  • 251. CHIEFS - WR Bru McCoy, Tennessee
  • 252. 49ERS - QB KURTIS ROURKE, INDIANA
  • 253. BILLS - OT John Williams, Cincinnati
  • 254. SAINTS - CB JUSTIN WALLEY, MINNESOTA
  • 255. BROWNS - TE Mitchell Evans, Notre Dame
  • 256. CHARGERS - ILB Francisco Mauioga, Miami
  • 257. CHIEFS - S R.J. Mickens, Clemson



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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2025, 10:41:42 AM »
It's no wonder why the Badgers suck these days. Only 2 players drafted, and both in the 6th round.
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« Reply #79 on: April 18, 2025, 12:17:49 PM »
MSU with none.  They were one of I believe 5 schools that had a player drafted in the entire NFL merger era, and it was broken a couple years ago, and I think this would make it 3 times in 4 years since then with none drafted

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« Reply #80 on: April 18, 2025, 01:25:11 PM »
Huskers suffered a prolonged drought recently
had some free agents picked and playing in the league, but if you don't win, you don't get invited to the combine and you don't get drafted
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« Reply #81 on: April 18, 2025, 01:27:24 PM »
Huskers suffered a prolonged drought recently
had some free agents picked and playing in the league, but if you don't win, you don't get invited to the combine and you don't get drafted
I want to say the last 5 were UM, MSU, Nebraska, Florida and USC, and now it might be just UM and Florida?

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« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2025, 03:45:58 PM »
It's no wonder why the Badgers suck these days. Only 2 players drafted, and both in the 6th round.
turns out having lots of future NFL players on your roster wins you games. hey, who knew?

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« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2025, 03:09:11 PM »


Gotta give credit to Frost for moving Cam from TE to Center
just wish someone could have taught Cam to hike/snap the ball properly while at UNL
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