2025 NFL Thread

[Mdot21]

according to the draft gurus Michigan CB Will Johnson reportedly slipping down draft boards due to injury concerns and him not running a 40. Lol. Could he have played through some nagging minor injuries in 2025? Yeah. Do I blame him for sitting out? Absolutely not. He'd shown enough on tape to be a high 1st rd pick, Michigan wasn't going anywhere- protect your future and secure that bag.

And who cares about him not running a 40? Put on the tape. Dude is insanely good and oh yeah he's a 6'2+, 200+ CB. Fun fact: Will Johnson has scored more touchdowns on pick 6's than touchdowns he's given up as a CB. 3 TD's scored on pick 6's, and only 2 TD's given up in his entire career at CB. And the first TD he gave up at CB was as a true frosh in game 1 of the season. Since that point he only gave up 1 TD the rest of his collegiate career. I've seen with my own eyes Travis Hunter give up multiple TD's in a single game at CB. Against lesser competition. Lol. Travis Hunter is NOT a better CB or CB prospect than Will Johnson, period. Will Johnson is as good as it gets at CB.

If he falls to 15-20 range somehow Brad Holmes needs to trade up from 28 and snatch him. He's a Patrick Surtain II clone. And oh yeah PS2 is only the best CB in the game right now...


https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1908951774737879195


https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1907236585332187318


https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1911772194893373863

[MikeDeTiger]

I think it's generally accepted that people start rumors, trying to tank the stock of certain players for one reason or another. 

Seems like a better explanation than WJ actually being lowered in teams' objective evaluations.  A lot of guys don't run the 40, again, for a variety of reasons.  

[FearlessF]

usually because they're afraid of a slow time

[MikeDeTiger]

If you have any kind of tweak or injury, no matter how minor, plenty of guys won't run it.  If they suspect they can't get a representative time, they are advised not to do it.  Not running the 40 is better than running a slow 40.  LSU has had a bunch of guys decline for that reason over the years, none of whom were slow in college or in the NFL.  They may also decline some drills at the combine if they already have recorded times at their school's Pro Day.  Many of our guys have clocked times they're happy with at our Pro Day that the NFL teams accept and choose not to repeat the drills at the combine.  It's not a thing that hurts them. 

Rumors, on the other hand, can cause guys to slip appreciably.  Some team hoping to get a steal by causing a player to drop to a lower slot.  

[MrNubbz]

WJ had to stay healthy after appearing in 6 games he had just 12 total tackles and had plenty of rest to convalesce. For many scouts concerns existed about whether he would have the speed to consistently thrive against NFL-level athletes. Travis Hunter didn't have the luxury to play on M's team in '23,not comparable. Smart GMs are not going snap up damaged goods real early - they want impact players. M's ballyhooed draft class last spring wasn't impressive collectively(w/o looking) with the exception of Mike Sainristil. Johnson won't have Kyle McCord staring him down in the League 

[Mdot21]

WJ had to stay healthy after appearing in 6 games he had just 12 total tackles and had plenty of rest to convalesce. For many scouts concerns existed about whether he would have the speed to consistently thrive against NFL-level athletes. Travis Hunter didn't have the luxury to play on M's team in '23,not comparable. Smart GMs are not going snap up damaged goods real early - they want impact players. M's ballyhooed draft class last spring wasn't impressive collectively(w/o looking) with the exception of Mike Sainristil. Johnson won't have Kyle McCord staring him down in the League

I pray NFL GMs believe the same and Will falls into 15-20 and the Lions are able to move up and steal him. 

[ELA]

My 7 round mock draft with trades

FIRST ROUND

• 1. TITANS - WR/CB Travis Hunter, Colorado
• 2. BROWNS - OT Will Campbell, LSU
• 3. GIANTS - DL MASON GRAHAM, MICHIGAN
• 4. PATRIOTS - WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona

Jaguars trade Pick #5 to Saints for Pick #9 and two 3rd Round (#71 and #93) 

• 5. SAINTS - EDGE ABDUL CARTER, PENN STATE
• 6. RAIDERS - RB Ashton Jeanty, Boise State
• 7. JETS - TE TYLER WARREN, PENN STATE
• 8. PANTHERS - EDGE Mike Green, Marshall
• 9. JAGUARS - OT Armand Membou, Missouri
• 10. BEARS - OT Kelvin Banks Jr., Texas
• 11. 49ERS - CB WILL JOHNSON, MICHIGAN
• 12. COWBOYS - WR Luther Burden, Missouri
• 13. DOLPHINS - S Malaki Starks, Georgia
• 14. COLTS - ILB Jihaad Campbell, Alabama
• 15. FALCONS - DL Walter Nolen, Ole Miss
• 16. CARDINALS - DE Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M

Bengals trade Pick #17 to Steelers for Pick #21 and 3rd Round (#83)

• 17. STEELERS - QB Cam Ward, Miami

Seahawks trade Pick #18 to Packers for Pick #23 and 3rd Round (#87)

• 18. PACKERS - CB Jahdae Barron, Texas
• 19. BUCCANEERS - EDGE Mykel Williams, Georgia
• 20. BRONCOS - WR Matthew Golden, Texas
• 21. BENGALS - EDGE James Pearce Jr., Tennessee
• 22. CHARGERS - DT KENNETH GRANT, MICHIGAN
• 23. SEAHAWKS - WR EMEKA EGBUKA, OHIO STATE

Vikings trade Pick #24 to Lions for Pick #28 and 3rd Round (#102)

• 24. LIONS - OLB Jalon Walker, Georgia
• 25. TEXANS - OT JOSH SIMMONS, OHIO STATE
• 26. RAMS - CB Shavon Revel Jr., East Carolina
• 27. RAVENS - EDGE Nic Scourton, Texas A&M
• 28. VIKINGS - S Nick Emmanwori, South Carolina
• 29. COMMANDERS - EDGE Donovan Ezeiruaku, Boston College

Bills trade Pick #30 to Colts for 2nd Round (#45) and 3rd Round (#80)

• 30. COLTS - TE COLSTON LOVELAND, MICHIGAN

Chiefs trade Pick #31 to Seahawks for 2nd Round (#50) and 3rd Round (#82)

• 31. SEAHAWKS - OG Grey Zabel, North Dakota State
• 32. EAGLES - DL DERRICK HARMON, OREGON

[Mdot21]

if Lions can get Jalon Walker at 24, I'm cool with that. high upside with tons of talent. he's a take all day at #24. at #4? probably not. at 24? yes, please.

[MrNubbz]

I pray NFL GMs believe the same and Will falls into 15-20 and the Lions are able to move up and steal him.

OAM will be by to tighten you up shortly for that gaff - but then again he's never been a Browns/Lions fan. There certainly is a Hell ask any Browns/Lions fan, I don't care what that ponderous,persecuted mess states. WJ will be servicable even decent but no Mel Blount,Neon Deon,Darrel Green, Rod or Charles Woodson,Champ bailey........

[Mdot21]

OAM will be by to tighten you up shortly for that gaff - but then again he's never been a Browns/Lions fan. There certainly is a Hell ask any Browns/Lions fan, I don't care what that ponderous,persecuted mess states. WJ will be servicable even decent but no Mel Blount,Neon Deon,Darrel Green, Rod or Charles Woodson,Champ bailey........

odds of any CB becoming that in any draft are slim.....you're talking about probably 6 of the 10 greatest CB's to ever play in the NFL...

Will is the best CB in the draft bar none. He's going to be a STUD in the NFL. He's incredibly fluid and bendy for a guy 6'2, 200+ and what sets him apart from so many CB's are his instincts/football IQ and ball skills- he gets picks and takes them the other way.

His tape doesn't lie. Kid has insane PFF grades for man and zone coverage and his stats are out of this world and so is his tape. And oh yeah did I mention he's a fluid 6'2+, 200+ corner with elite ball skills and football IQ/instincts?

[MrNubbz]

He won't have Kyle McCord staring him down he threw 3 pick 6s vs PITT. WJ had one complete season surrounded by guys who won a CFB NC***. We shall see but bar none could be a stretch - I'll take the field then, feeling your M Oats. He's had 6 fackin' months w/o playing to get ready for the league but wouldn't/couldn't run a 40 on Monday??? Alrighty then,hopefully he'll perform better than last years M class on Sundays

[ELA]

SECOND ROUND

• 33. BROWNS - QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
• 34. GIANTS - OG Tyler Booker, Alabama
• 35. TITANS - EDGE Landon Jackson, Arkansas
• 36. JAGUARS - DL Darius Alexander, Toledo
• 37. RAIDERS - CB Maxwell Hairston, Kentucky
• 38. PATRIOTS - OT JOSH CONERLY JR., OREGON
• 39. BEARS - RB Omarion Hampton, North Carolina
• 40. SAINTS - CB Trey Amos, Ole Miss
• 41. BEARS - EDGE J.T. TUIMOLOAU, OHIO STATE
• 42. JETS - WR Jayden Higgins, Iowa State
• 43. 49ERS - DT TYLIEK WILLIAMS, OHIO STATE
• 44. COWBOYS - CB Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame
• 45. BILLS - CB Azareye'h Thomas, Florida State
• 46. FALCONS - OG DONOVAN JACKSON, OHIO STATE
• 47. CARDINALS - DL T.J. Sanders, South Carolina
• 48. DOLPHINS - OT AIREONTAE ERSERY, MINNESOTA
• 49. BENGALS - CB Darien Porter, Iowa State
• 50. CHIEFS - EDGE Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss
• 51. BRONCOS - EDGE JACK SAWYER, OHIO STATE

Seahawks trade Pick #52 to Panthers for Pick #57 and 4th Round (#114)

• 52. PANTHERS - WR Elic Ayomanor, Stanford
• 53. BUCCANEERS - ILB CARSON SCHWESINGER, UCLA
• 54. PACKERS - WR Jack Bech, TCU
• 55. CHARGERS - TE Mason Taylor, LSU
• 56. BILLS - WR Tre Harris, Ole Miss
• 57. SEAHAWKS - OT Cameron Williams, Texas
• 58. TEXANS - IOL MARCUS MBOW, PURDUE
• 59. RAVENS - OG Jonah Savaiinaea, Arizona
• 60. LIONS - S Xavier Watts, Notre Dame
• 61. COMMANDERS - RB QUINSHOD JUDKINS, OHIO STATE
• 62. BILLS - EDGE Bradyn Swinson, LSU
• 63. CHIEFS - DL Alfred Collins, Texas
• 64. EAGLES - TE Elijah Arroyo, Miami

[MrNubbz]

If the Browns do that,just SMDH,Build a solid team all around then find a good game manager

[ELA]

THIRD ROUND

• 65. GIANTS - QB Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
• 66. CHIEFS - RB TREVEYON HENDERSON, OHIO STATE
• 67. BROWNS - WR Jalen Royals, Utah State
• 68. RAIDERS - WR Isaiah Bond, Texas
• 69. PATRIOTS - EDGE Kyle Kennard, South Carolina
• 70. JAGUARS - WR Jaylin Noel, Iowa State
• 71. JAGUARS - DL Omarr Norman-Lott, Tennessee
• 72. BEARS - DL Deone Walker, Kentucky
• 73. JETS - OT Wyatt Milum, West Virginia

Panthers trade Pick #74 to Cowboys for Pick #76 and 6th Round (#204)

• 74. COWBOYS - RB KALEB JOHNSON, IOWA
• 75. 49ERS - DE JORDAN BURCH, OREGON
• 76. PANTHERS - DL Shemar Turner, Texas A&M
• 77. PATRIOTS - RB Cam Skattebo, Arizona State
• 78. CARDINALS - OG Tate Ratledge, Georgia
• 79. TEXANS - DT C.J. WEST, INDIANA
• 80. BILLS - DL Joshua Farmer, Florida State
• 81. BENGALS - S Andrew Mukuba, Texas
• 82. CHIEFS - OT Ozzy Trapilo, Boston College
• 83. BENGALS - OC Jared Wilson, Georgia
• 84. BUCCANEERS - TE Harold Fannin Jr., Bowling Green
• 85. BRONCOS - RB Dylan Sampson, Tennessee
• 86. CHARGERS - EDGE JOSIAH STEWART, MICHIGAN

Seahawks trade Pick #87 to Titans for Two 4th Round (#103 and #120) and 6th (#188)

• 87. TITANS - QB Jalen Milroe, Alabama
• 88. JAGUARS - TE TERRANCE FERGUSON, OREGON
• 89. TEXANS - WR TEZ JOHNSON, OREGON
• 90. RAMS - ILB Demetrius Knight Jr., South Carolina
• 91. RAVENS - CB Jacob Parrish, Kansas State
• 92. SEAHAWKS - EDGE Jared Ivey, Ole Miss
• 93. JAGUARS - S KEVIN WINSTON JR., PENN STATE
• 94. BROWNS - DE Aeneas Peebles, Virginia Tech
• 95. CHIEFS - TE Gunnar Helm, Texas
• 96. EAGLES - EDGE OLUWAFEMI OLADEJO, UCLA
• 97. VIKINGS - DT JORDAN PHILLIPS, MARYLAND
• 98. DOLPHINS - WR Kyle Williams, Washington State
• 99. GIANTS - OT Charles Grant, William & Mary
• 100. 49ERS - OT Anthony Belton, NC State
• 101. RAMS - EDGE Ashton Gillotte, Louisville
• 102. VIKINGS - RB D.J. Giddens, Kansas State