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Topic: 2025 MSU Season Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #28 on: Today at 04:35:07 PM »
So I guess NCAA got their pound of flesh for Michigan's cheating
Tarkinian was right.

The NCAA is a complete joke. This and tatgate pale in comparison to wholesale cheating by Auburn (Cam Newton) and Michigan (Connor Stallions) and yet tOSU and MSU had to vacate wins while Auburn and Michigan didn't. 

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« Reply #29 on: Today at 05:35:13 PM »
Summation: other programs cheated far worse than my program. Look at their program not mine. They cheated so bad their wins were allowed to stand and mine vacated, proving how right I am and how bad the system is.

Seems like the real cheaters who get their wins vacated scream the loudest about other programs.  

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #30 on: Today at 05:52:59 PM »
Fellas, this isn't the UM/OSU hate thread...  

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #31 on: Today at 06:12:12 PM »
Summation: other programs cheated far worse than my program. Look at their program not mine. They cheated so bad their wins were allowed to stand and mine vacated, proving how right I am and how bad the system is.

Seems like the real cheaters who get their wins vacated scream the loudest about other programs. 
No

Summation: Multiple programs cheated to win games.  Certain cheaters have the wins they cheated to gain stripped, and other cheaters did not.  Usually tied to how much money you make the conference.  Tark called it out 30 years ago, and nothing has changed

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #32 on: Today at 06:14:45 PM »
Can we talk about a few pairs of sneakers in Madison?

Sheesh.

Michigan got away with a slap on the wrist. Maybe MSU absolutely deserved the stripping of their wins, but I don't know how anyone can look at the sanction against Michigan and think anything other than "special treatment." The NCAA's treatment of marquis programs certainly raises eyebrows.

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #33 on: Today at 06:37:40 PM »
Pretty sure NCAA drops the hammer harder when it comes to playing ineligible players. It’s why OSU football got in so much trouble for Tatgate, Michigan basketball for Ed Martin scandal, and SMU football the death penalty.

Admittedly I have not read about the MSU thing at all, but playing ineligible players is always going to bring down the most severe consequences from NCAA. That has mostly gone away because of NIL, now the players are allowed to be paid over the table and out in the open- so I have no clue how you get popped playing ineligible players unless it was some academic fraud where they are changing players grades or something. 

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« Reply #34 on: Today at 07:16:34 PM »
Fellas, this isn't the UM/OSU hate thread... 
"It is better to have died a young boy than to fumble the football" - John Heisman

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #35 on: Today at 07:22:44 PM »
Can we talk about a few pairs of sneakers in Madison?

Sheesh.

Michigan got away with a slap on the wrist. Maybe MSU absolutely deserved the stripping of their wins, but I don't know how anyone can look at the sanction against Michigan and think anything other than "special treatment." The NCAA's treatment of marquis programs certainly raises eyebrows.
Daddy deep pockets Donors,the limp biscuits that are the NCAA fined them as they needed the coin. 4 fired coaches and one probably going up the river using his same hacking abilities on female students accounts - NCAA be like 

           
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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #36 on: Today at 08:33:08 PM »

This is when I quietly exit left 🫣


medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #37 on: Today at 08:57:10 PM »
Summation: other programs cheated far worse than my program. Look at their program not mine. They cheated so bad their wins were allowed to stand and mine vacated, proving how right I am and how bad the system is.

Seems like the real cheaters who get their wins vacated scream the loudest about other programs. 
LoL, BS.

This isn't a tOSU/M thing. It is an integrity issue as fans of MSU and UW just explained. 

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #38 on: Today at 09:27:35 PM »
Michigan got away with a slap on the wrist. Maybe MSU absolutely deserved the stripping of their wins, but I don't know how anyone can look at the sanction against Michigan and think anything other than "special treatment." The NCAA's treatment of marquis programs certainly raises eyebrows.
Pot stirring aside, it’s the world we live in. I’m not supportive of it in any fashion, if we are being real in a non-inflammatory type conversation. Sadly, it happens in many ways across many segments of society. Here’s an off-topic example - Wells Fargo, they create millions of fraudulent fake accounts in consumers names. Any mid-size average bank, credit union or financial institution would have been shut down, including multiple arrests. Wells Fargo had 2 trillion in assets and were fined $3 billion. An absurd number given the circumstances and what happened.

we live in a world where power and capital dictate consequences of improper actions being exposed. By no means am I excusing it, nor condoning, but something we just have to deal with. Can still rub us entirely the wrong way, but doesn’t change its reality and our ability to change it.

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Re: 2025 MSU Season Thread
« Reply #39 on: Today at 09:34:41 PM »
Tarkinian was right.

The NCAA is a complete joke. This and tatgate pale in comparison to wholesale cheating by Auburn (Cam Newton) and Michigan (Connor Stallions) and yet tOSU and MSU had to vacate wins while Auburn and Michigan didn't.
same as the Big Ten (joke)
the conference can police it's own, but refuses to do so.
apparently, that's the reason the NCAA exists, ........... so the conference can stand back and blame the NCAA for stupid rules and enforcements
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