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Topic: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation

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Abba

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2024, 02:40:37 PM »
So this is the year Penn State finally gets the Buckeyes?  Oh well, hopefully that'll be balanced out by a win over Michigan.

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2024, 03:45:59 PM »
This simulation is smoking some good Kentucky meth.

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2024, 03:50:04 PM »
b-cause my Huskers are top 20?
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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2024, 03:52:28 PM »
WEEK TEN
  • #11 PENN STATE d. #7 OHIO STATE
Ohio State's schedule this year is the worst of both worlds. They'll get fairly dinged for playing a "weak" slate because the three OOC's are body-bags and yet they could be the best (or one of the best) teams in the nation and still easily lose at least twice. They have three top-ten opponents and two of them are on the road.

Per your simulation they have two losses:
  • At 7-1 #8 PSU whose only loss was at #16 WVU
  • At 7-1 #9 Oregon whose only loss was at #4 Michigan

Those are in no way "bad" losses and yet the Buckeyes would be practically eliminated from B1GCG contention:


[img width=274.381 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/6KL0dTP.png[/img]
At 3-2 and with losses to both 5-0 PSU AND 5-1 Oregon the Buckeyes would need all kinds of help.

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2024, 04:01:30 PM »
no worries

perhaps pull the #5 seed in the playoff
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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2024, 04:36:23 PM »
no worries

perhaps pull the #5 seed in the playoff
Oh, I get it.  In the 12-team CFP world, two losses isn't devastating.  That is nice if the above comes to pass but it also changes my life-long way of viewing the games in a way that I don't like.  

Per the way this is laid out, Ohio State after their November 2 loss to PSU is 3-2/6*-2, 6th in the B1G and #15 nationally with the following remaining:
  • 1-4/2-6 unranked Purdue at home
  • 3-3/5-4 unranked Northwestern in Evanston
  • 1-5/4-5 unranked Indiana at home
  • 6-0/8-1 #4 Michigan at home
By winning out the Buckeyes would finish 7-2/10-2.  They'd have almost no chance at the B1GCG but they would be a pretty obvious CFP team, not sure about the #5 seed.  


NOTE to @ELA :
You had tOSU at 5-1 in the week-7 poll but 6-1 in the spreadsheet.  That was immediately after tOSU's loss to Oregon which was game #6 for the Buckeyes, they should be 5-1 in both.  

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2024, 04:44:57 PM »
WEEK ELEVEN
Tuesday, November 5
  • Central Michigan d. Bowling Green
  • Miami(Ohio) d. Ball State

Wednesday, November 6
  • Ohio d. Kent State
  • Western Michigan d. Northern Illinois

Thursday, November 7
  • Appalachian State d. Coastal Carolina
  • East Carolina d. Florida Atlantic

Friday, November 8
  • California d. Wake Forest
  • Memphis d. Rice
  • San Diego State d. New Mexico
  • UCLA d. IOWA

Saturday, November 9
ESPN College Gameday, live from Columbia, MO
#7 Oklahoma d. #2 Missouri

  • #1 LSU d. #12 Alabama
  • #3 Texas d. Florida
  • #4 MICHIGAN d. INDIANA
  • Florida State d. #6 Notre Dame
  • #8 PENN STATE d. #21 WASHINGTON
  • #9 OREGON d. MARYLAND
  • #10 Oklahoma State d. TCU
  • #11 Georgia d. #17 Ole Miss
  • #14 Tennessee d. Mississippi State
  • #15 OHIO STATE d. PURDUE
  • #23 Cincinnati d. #16 West Virginia
  • #18 Miami d. Georgia Tech
  • #19 James Madison d. Georgia State
  • #25 Clemson d. Virginia Tech

  • Arizona State d. Central Florida
  • Arkansas State d. Louisiana
  • Boise State d. Nevada
  • Boston College d. Syracuse
  • Colorado d. Texas Tech
  • Connecticut d. UAB
  • Fresno State d. Air Force
  • Hawaii d. UNLV
  • Iowa State d. Kansas
  • Jacksonville State d. Louisiana Tech
  • Marshall d. Southern Miss
  • Middle Tennessee d. Liberty
  • NC State d. Duke
  • NM State d. Western Kentucky
  • North Texas d. Army
  • Pittsburgh d. Virginia
  • RUTGERS d. MINNESOTA
  • San Jose State d. Oregon State
  • South Carolina d. Vanderbilt
  • South Florida d. Navy
  • Texas State d. UL Monroe
  • Tulane d. Temple
  • Utah d. BYU
  • UTEP d. Kennesaw State
  • Washington State d. Utah State

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2024, 05:00:17 PM »
WEEK 11 POLL
  • LSU (9-0) 1
  • Texas (8-1) 3
  • MICHIGAN (9-1) 4
  • Baylor (9-0) 5
  • Oklahoma (9-1) 7
  • PENN STATE (8-1) 8
  • OREGON (9-1) 9
  • Oklahoma State (9-1) 10
  • Missouri (8-1) 2
  • Georgia (7-2) 11
  • Kentucky (7-2) 13
  • Tennessee (7-2) 14
  • OHIO STATE (7-2) 15
  • Notre Dame (7-2) 6
  • Miami (8-2) 18
  • NEBRASKA (7-2) 20
  • James Madison (9-0) 19
  • Alabama (6-3) 12
  • Cincinnati (7-2) 23
  • SMU (7-2) 22
  • Arizona (7-2) 24
  • Clemson (7-2) 25
  • California (7-2) -
  • West Virginia (6-3) 16
  • Ole Miss (7-3) 17




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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2024, 05:03:43 PM »



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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2024, 05:17:15 PM »
hah, been a few decades since the Skers were ranked above Bama!
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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2024, 05:41:55 PM »
B1G standings per @ELA 's simulation after the November 9 games:


  • 7-0 Michigan, beat Ore, @tOSU on 11/30, DNP PSU and UNL
  • 6-0 Penn State, beat tOSU, DNP M, Ore, UNL
  • 6-1 Oregon, beat tOSU, lost to M, DNP PSU and UNL
  • 5-1 Nebraska, lost to tOSU, DNP M, PSU, and Ore
  • 4-2 Ohio State, beat UNL, lost to PSU and Ore, M on 11/30, 
I believe that the three-loss teams (Wash, USC, RU, NU, UW) are mathematically eliminated because they can do no better than 6-3.  Thus, they can't catch Michigan and the best they could do is to tie PSU and Oregon.  Plus they'd also need UNL to lose at least twice and tOSU to lose at least once.  

For all intents and purposes tOSU is out as well as I'll get to.  

Remaining games:
  • 7-0 Michigan:  vsNU, attOSU
  • 6-0 Penn State:  atPU, atMN, vsUMD
  • 6-1 Oregon:  atUW, vsUWash
  • 5-1 Nebraska:  atUSC, vsUW, atIowa
  • 4-2 Ohio State:  atNU, vsIU, vsM


I think Michigan would clinch a spot by winning either of their two remaining games because they'd win a tie with Oregon and I *THINK* they'd also win a tie with Nebraska based on record against the next best team.  

Penn State's tiebreaker situation isn't quite as good as Michigan's but they also don't have any scary opponents left.  In this simulation Purdue, Minnesota, and Maryland are 1-5, 3-4, and 0-6 respectively so the Nittany Lions would effectively be a lock as well.  

Oregon has a more difficult remaining schedule with a trip to 3-3 Wisconsin and a home rivalry game against 4-3 Washington but even if they won both they'd need help.  Ohio State taking down Michigan would theoretically get the Ducks into a tie with Michigan but they lost to the Wolverines so that doesn't really help.  They'd need Michigan to lose out or PSU to suffer a bad upset.  

Nebraska's remaining schedule is rough and they'd need all kinds of help.  

I *THINK* Ohio State is mathematically in it but that is academic.  As a practical matter a Michigan team that got to 7-0 wouldn't lose to a 3-3 Northwestern team at home and a 6-0 PSU wouldn't lose out to three bottom-feeders so the Buckeyes need to win out and plan for a road CFP opener.  

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2024, 02:05:11 PM »
WEEK TWELVE
Tuesday, November 12
  • Bowling Green d. Western Michigan
  • Buffalo d. Ball State
  • Toledo d. Central Michigan

Wednesday, November 13
  • Kent State d. Miami(Ohio)
  • Northern Illinois d. Akron
  • Ohio d. Eastern Michigan

Thursday, November 14
  • East Carolina d. Tulsa

Friday, November 15
  • #21 Arizona d. Houston

  • UTSA d. North Texas
  • WASHINGTON d. UCLA
  • Wyoming d. Colorado State

Saturday, November 16
ESPN College Gameday, live from Athens, GA
#10 Georgia d. #12 Tennessee

  • #1 LSU d. Florida
  • #2 Texas d. Arkansas
  • #4 Baylor d. #24 West Virginia
  • #6 PENN STATE d. PURDUE
  • #7 OREGON d. WISCONSIN
  • #9 Missouri d. South Carolina
  • #11 Kentucky d. Murray State
  • #13 OHIO STATE d. NORTHWESTERN
  • #14 Notre Dame d. Virginia
  • USC d. #16 NEBRASKA
  • #17 James Madison d. Old Dominion
  • #18 Alabama d. Mercer
  • #19 Cincinnati d. Iowa State
  • #20 SMU d. Boston College
  • #22 Clemson d. Pittsburgh
  • #23 California d. Syracuse

  • Air Force d. Oregon State
  • Arkansas State d. Georgia State
  • Auburn d. UL Monroe
  • Boise State d. San Jose State
  • Charlotte d. South Florida
  • Florida Atlantic d. Temple
  • Georgia Southern d. Troy
  • ILLINOIS d. MICHIGAN STATE
  • Jacksonville State d. FIU
  • Kansas d. BYU
  • Kansas State d. Arizona State
  • Kennesaw State d. Sam Houston
  • Liberty d. Massachusetts
  • Marshall d. Coastal Carolina
  • RUTGERS d. MARYLAND
  • San Diego State d. UNLV
  • South Alabama d. Louisiana
  • Stanford d. Louisville
  • Texas A&M d. NM State
  • Texas State d. Southern Miss
  • Tulane d. Navy
  • UAB d. Memphis
  • Utah d. Colorado
  • Utah State d. Hawaii
  • Wake Forest d. North Carolina
  • Washington State d. New Mexico
  • Western Kentucky d. Louisiana Tech

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Re: 2024 SP+/FPI Season Simulation
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2024, 02:15:01 PM »
WEEK 12 POLL

  • LSU (10-0) 1
  • Baylor (10-0) 4
  • Texas (9-1) 2
  • MICHIGAN (9-1) 3
  • Oklahoma (9-1) 5
  • PENN STATE (9-1) 6
  • OREGON (10-1) 7
  • Oklahoma State (9-1) 8
  • Missouri (9-1) 9
  • Georgia (8-2) 10
  • Kentucky (8-2) 11
  • OHIO STATE (8-2) 13
  • Notre Dame (8-2) 14
  • Miami (8-2) 15
  • Alabama (7-3) 18
  • James Madison (10-0) 17
  • Cincinnati (8-2) 19
  • SMU (8-2) 20
  • Arizona (8-2) 21
  • Clemson (8-2) 22
  • California (8-2) 23
  • Tennessee (7-3) 12
  • Ole Miss (7-3) 25
  • Boise State (9-1) -
  • NEBRASKA (7-3) 16




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