2024 Penn State Offseason Thread

[Mdot21]

if Franklin can't make the playoff this year and they keep him there's always this coming soon...an NIT of CFB if you will...I'm sure he'd do well there....


https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1824111642311016554

[MrNubbz]

PSU had a great offense
it would have been a good game until halftime

Correct UNL would have came out like the 2nd half of last year's game vs the Buffs 🙃

[Mdot21]

I just saw this on a CFB season preview podcast....James Franklin is 3-22 vs top 10 ranked teams. Is this true? If it is he better beat Ohio State at home this season and make the 12 team playoff. How many excuses is this guy allowed to have?

[MrNubbz]

https://youtu.be/O80f45dw93E?t=2

[Mdot21]

Sherrone Moore is 2-0 vs top 10 teams. He's coached 4 games in his entire career. So far.

James Franklin is 3-22 vs top 10 teams. He's coached 190 games.

[ELA]

Beat OSU and Wisconsin in 2016, and Utah in the 2023 Rose Bowl.

Guessing a lot of those games are with Vandy though, so not entirely apples to apples

2014 - L #10 MSU
2015 - L @#1 OSU, L @#6 MSU
2016 - L @#4 UM, W #2 OSU, W #6 UW, L #9 USC
2017 - L @#6 OSU
2018 - L #4 OSU, L @#5 UM
2019 - L @#2 OSU
2020 - L #3 OSU
2021 - L @#3 Iowa, L @#5 OSU, L #6 UM
2022 - L @#5 UM, L #2 OSU, W #8 Utah
2023 - L @#3 OSU, L #3 UM

So 3-17 at PSU.  Probably why he only played in 1 CCG, he can't beat OSU, and he can't beat UM or MSU when those teams are good.  1-15 against OSU, UM, MSU teams ranked in the Top 10.  2-2 against other top 10 teams.  His one appearance happened the one time he beat OSU, and during Dantonio's worst year at MSU.

[ELA]

Beat OSU and Wisconsin in 2016, and Utah in the 2023 Rose Bowl.

Guessing a lot of those games are with Vandy though, so not entirely apples to apples

2014 - L #10 MSU
2015 - L @#1 OSU, L @#6 MSU
2016 - L @#4 UM, W #2 OSU, W #6 UW, L #9 USC
2017 - L @#6 OSU
2018 - L #4 OSU, L @#5 UM
2019 - L @#2 OSU
2020 - L #3 OSU
2021 - L @#3 Iowa, L @#5 OSU, L #6 UM
2022 - L @#5 UM, L #2 OSU, W #8 Utah
2023 - L @#3 OSU, L #3 UM

So 3-17 at PSU.  Probably why he only played in 1 CCG, he can't beat OSU, and he can't beat UM or MSU when those teams are good.  1-15 against OSU, UM, MSU teams ranked in the Top 10.  2-2 against other top 10 teams.  His one appearance happened the one time he beat OSU, and during Dantonio's worst year at MSU.

And actually if you just extend that out to ranked at all against those 3 division rivals...

2014 - L #13 OSU
2015 - L #14 UM
2017 - W #19 UM, L @#24 MSU
2019 - W #16 UM
2021 - L @#12 MSU

So 3-19 against those teams when they are simply ranked, plus a loss to an unranked MSU team in 2018

[Mdot21]

And actually if you just extend that out to ranked at all against those 3 division rivals...

2014 - L #13 OSU
2015 - L #14 UM
2017 - W #19 UM, L @#24 MSU
2019 - W #16 UM
2021 - L @#12 MSU

So 3-19 against those teams when they are simply ranked, plus a loss to an unranked MSU team in 2018

jesus. 

dude has a hell of an agent. he's making $10 million a year for that? 

[MrNubbz]

Franklin makes $8.5 million per year in total guaranteed compensation that includes a $500,000 annual retention bonus and a $1 million annual loan for life insurance. The Penn State coach also can make up to $1 million per year in incentives, which includes $800,000 for winning the College Football Playoff national championship. So 10 mil if he makes his incentives and a mil more if he wins the CFPO

They were having this conversation on one of the PSU boards. Many quips were understandable from the long haul back up to respectability.
Some of the resonses here:

-a lot of his Franklin's players like him and his upbeat attitude. PSU fans owe a debt of gratitude to James Franklin. He rebuilt the program into respectability. He has been a very good coach and recruiter and an even better spokesperson for the PSU brand. He is charismatic and charmed the media into accepting PSU once again. He made it acceptable to be a PSU fan, to wear your gear out again

- Sanctions were still in force big time after O'Brien left, for Franklin's first two seasons. This nuked our oline especially. We were playing B1G football with walk-on olinemen. Franklin walked into a $hitshow of a program.Reduced schollies and other penalties from the Sandusky scandal thanks to Paterno looking the other way, plus a COVID year restrictions in 2020 wasn't any help.

- James Franklin has regularly taken PSU to NY6 Bowl games. The Rose (twice), Cotton, Peach, and Fiesta. Nobody in 2012 would ever have thought that possible, let alone within a few years post-sanctions. Yet Franklin did it.

- Joe Paterno left Penn State with the worst scandal in the history of sports. James Franklin certainly without question helped bring us back from this horrible and incredibly embarrassing scandal.

[Mdot21]

insane to me that Ryan Day has the 9th best betting odds to be fired yet James Franklin doesn't even make the list...


https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/1825546978119541056