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Topic: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #84 on: December 02, 2024, 10:39:12 AM »
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2024, 11:19:52 AM »
Nope.  McCord has a good arm but is a statue and freaks out under pressure.  That’s why Will Howard‘s completion percentage in QBR was so much higher than McCords.
Well.. I don't think it's that simple. When you have Egbuka, Smith and Tate to throw to, it's not the same as Meeks, Pena and Gadsden. The receivers with that elite of talent also pad the percentages and stats. 

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #86 on: December 02, 2024, 11:59:17 AM »
the copium levels are astounding with these guys...


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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #87 on: December 02, 2024, 12:12:26 PM »
Ryan Day is now 66-10 at Ohio State. 3 of those 10 losses were to the eventual National Champions (Bama, UGA, Michigan) and 2 of those 3 losses to the National Champs were very close down to the wire finishes. 

Vs Non-National Champs the guy is 66-7- so he wins 90.4% of his games vs non-national champs. Yeah, idk how you just go and fire that. I know Ohio State fans are pissed but unless he drops like two more in a row to Michigan or has a sub .500 season, not sure you can really justify just firing a dude with that kind of record.

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #88 on: December 02, 2024, 12:31:41 PM »
story of the game really was the trenches. that's where it's always won/lost. Ohio State OL ran into a brick wall Michigan DL and got nothing. Michigan OL actually held up reasonably well despite not having a threat of a passing game at all vs a stout OSU DL. 


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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 02, 2024, 12:42:06 PM »
story of the game really was the trenches. that's where it's always won/lost. Ohio State OL ran into a brick wall Michigan DL and got nothing. Michigan OL actually held up reasonably well despite not having a threat of a passing game at all vs a stout OSU DL.
It also cracks me up - people are saying if you can't beat Michigan this year, then when can you? OSU putting out a bunch of bail wire at Oline against one of the best d lines in the country. Ain't gonna be that way every year. Probably won't be that way next year. OSU fans too emotional about a game that doesn't matter at all except how much attachment you want to give it.

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #90 on: December 02, 2024, 12:47:10 PM »
Well.. I don't think it's that simple. When you have Egbuka, Smith and Tate to throw to, it's not the same as Meeks, Pena and Gadsden. The receivers with that elite of talent also pad the percentages and stats.
McCord’s stats last year weren’t any better when he had Harrison, Ebuka, and Tate to throw too.

He was not much of a leader and that’s well documented whereas Will Howard certainly is. Did you see the game this year where McCord threw five pics?
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #91 on: December 02, 2024, 12:49:55 PM »
It also cracks me up - people are saying if you can't beat Michigan this year, then when can you? OSU putting out a bunch of bail wire at Oline against one of the best d lines in the country. 
Very surprised more OSU fans aren't talking about this aspect. You're one of the few I've even heard say it, which I think deserves more conversation. That being said, I thought the O-line was decent in pass protection, which made it even weirder that play calling was centered around trying to win the game in the trenches and running up the middle consistently. They really should have built in the option, spreading the defense, keeping it on the move and throwing down field.  OSU didn't have their best o-line, but it also performed well enough that it didn't lose the game. 

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #92 on: December 02, 2024, 12:50:01 PM »
Ryan Day is now 66-10 at Ohio State. 3 of those 10 losses were to the eventual National Champions (Bama, UGA, Michigan) and 2 of those 3 losses to the National Champs were very close down to the wire finishes.

Vs Non-National Champs the guy is 66-7- so he wins 90.4% of his games vs non-national champs. Yeah, idk how you just go and fire that. I know Ohio State fans are pissed but unless he drops like two more in a row to Michigan or has a sub .500 season, not sure you can really justify just firing a dude with that kind of record.
Ryan Day never lost to an unranked team let alone an unranked team from Michigan. 
I won’t weigh in on whether they should fire him or not. I am wired differently and probably guilty of living in the past.

I’m not “that guy” that wants his coach fired if he doesn’t win the national championship or beat his rival.  Yes I would love for them to beat Michigan every year and I would love for them to win the national championship one out of every three years, but that’s just a pipe dream in reality.  I just enjoy putting a competitive team on the field that has some serious potential   
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #93 on: December 02, 2024, 12:51:13 PM »
Very surprised more OSU fans aren't talking about this aspect. You're one of the few I've even heard say it, which I think deserves more conversation. That being said, I thought the O-line was decent in pass protection, which made it even weirder that play calling was centered around trying to win the game in the trenches and running up the middle consistently. They really should have built in the option, spreading the defense, keeping it on the move and throwing down field.  OSU didn't have their best o-line, but it also performed well enough that it didn't lose the game.
Agree.  If you watch closely, that’s what they did to start the game. It changed when Will Howard threw that interception which led to Michigan’s easy touchdown.   That’s the point in the game where Ryan Day and Chip Kelly, both puckered  
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #94 on: December 02, 2024, 12:51:39 PM »
It also cracks me up - people are saying if you can't beat Michigan this year, then when can you? OSU putting out a bunch of bail wire at Oline against one of the best d lines in the country. Ain't gonna be that way every year. Probably won't be that way next year. OSU fans too emotional about a game that doesn't matter at all except how much attachment you want to give it.
this is very true. people are just emotional and pissed right now. I get it. Michigan's QB play and offense going forward should improve drastically next year but at the same time they are about to lose three very high level guys on their DL to the NFL draft- Mason Graham & Kenneth Grant are 1st round locks and Josiah Stewart could potentially join them- I'd be shocked if Stewart lasts past the 2nd rd- and Ohio State's OL situation in terms of depth going forward should improve drastically next year.

And as bad as Michigan has sucked this year- that's been pretty much 100% because of turnovers and their offense. Or lack of an offense I should say. That defense has tons of talent on it even with Will Johnson sitting out for most of the year to protect his NFL draft stock.

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #95 on: December 02, 2024, 12:55:00 PM »
Agree.  If you watch closely, that’s what they did to start the game. It changed when Will Howard threw that interception which led to Michigan’s easy touchdown.  That’s the point in the game where Ryan Day and Chip Kelly, both puckered 
agree. I think they started feeling like they couldn't really trust Howard to throw the ball after that. literally the only way Michigan could win that game was by Howard throwing picks or a big special teams play. Michigan had nothing on offense all game long. 

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #96 on: December 02, 2024, 01:05:47 PM »
Continuing to rely on Ohio State’s greatest weakness, which is their offensive line, to run directly into Michigan’s greatest strength, which was their defensive line, was bizarre.
This is the part that bothers me because if you look at the Michigan team, they have exactly one elite unit.  Their DL is elite.  Every other unit of that team is in a range from pretty good down to comically bad (QB).  

Meanwhile, Ohio State's OL was decent in pass protection but not great in run blocking.  That situation wasn't Day's fault.  It was due to injuries.  That said, the response to it absolutely was Day's responsibility and to come out and just say "well, we are going to bang our head into this wall over and over until the wall falls down" was beyond stupid.  

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #97 on: December 02, 2024, 01:06:46 PM »
True.  He is 1-4 versus the arch rival. 

just like Kirby is 1-6 versus his, but Kirby has a Natty. 
Day needs the offset that Kirby has.  

 

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