2024 Ohio State Season Thread

[MrNubbz]

Ryan Day is now 66-10 at Ohio State.  not sure you can really justify just firing a dude with that kind of record.

Quit pushing for his retention he shat the bed and ignored his number one weapon in the 2nd half and repeatedly ran into M's strength with 3 of the starting linemen out. The sheer weight of talent an rescources provided ensure you'll have a winning record. Gang busters with URBZ guys though. Most expensive coordinator in CFB hopefully soon out of work. You prolly defended Tennessee John before hooking up here

[medinabuckeye1]

Here is the problem in a nutshell, points scored this year on Michigan:

• 38 Oregon
• 31 Texas
• 27 Washington
• 24 USC
• 24 Minnesota
• 21 Illinois
• 20 Indiana
• 18 Arkansas State
• 17 Michigan State
• 10 Fresno
• 10 Ohio State
• 6 Northwestern

Compare points allowed to Michigan:

• 7 Illinois
• 12 Texas
• 13 Ohio State
• 15 Indiana
• 17 Oregon
• 24 Michigan State
• 27 USC
• 27 Minnesota
• 27 Washington
• 28 Arkansas State
• 30 Fresno
• 50 Northwestern

Someone on here tried to place blame on Ohio State's defense.  Sorry, no.  Ohio State's Defense was fine.  Looking at Michigan's opponents all season, Ohio State's defense was comparable to Texas and Indiana and better than Oregon.  That was one of the best defensive performances against Michigan all year.  

The problem is the offense.  The ROI is catastrophic there.  Ohio State scored less points on Michigan than Arkansas State, Michigan State, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, USC, Washington, Texas, and Oregon.  Ohio State probably spent more NIL than all of those combined sans Texas and Oregon.  

Davis Warren was 9 of 16 for 62 yards (that is an average of less than 4 yards per passing attempt) and he threw two INT's and we LOST.  How is that even possible.  

It isn't like the ran all over us either.  Michigan averaged 4.2 per carry.  That is not good.  

[Mdot21]

Davis Warren was 9 of 16 for 62 yards (that is an average of less than 4 yards per passing attempt) and he threw two INT's and we LOST.  How is that even possible. 

Warren was atrocious. If you told me that was his stat line I'd say Michigan lost by 3 TD's. Fortunately for Michigan and unfortunately for Ohio State Will Howard was pretty awful too.

[Mdot21]

this explains a lot. this game typically comes down to who rushes for the most yardage. don't have the # off the top of my head but i believe it's the last 25 or 26 games whoever rushes for the most yards has won the game.

edit: these are the rushing stats for the last 4 games combined for each team.

[MrNubbz]

Very surprised more OSU fans aren't talking about this aspect.

They went away from what moved the ball at the end of the 1st half.Again 4 X J.Smith number was called 3x good things happened.TOSU still could have beat Ms DBs all DAY long with quick slants and fades

[Mdot21]

Buckeye fans clamoring for Vrabel on the internets, but Vrabes doesn't seem to be a big fan of coaching the college game. also: he'll get an NFL offer sooner than later if he wants it imo.


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[medinabuckeye1]

Very surprised more OSU fans aren't talking about this aspect. You're one of the few I've even heard say it, which I think deserves more conversation. That being said, I thought the O-line was decent in pass protection, which made it even weirder that play calling was centered around trying to win the game in the trenches and running up the middle consistently. They really should have built in the option, spreading the defense, keeping it on the move and throwing down field.  OSU didn't have their best o-line, but it also performed well enough that it didn't lose the game.

I think we are not talking about it because of the portion of your post that I bolded.  

Do you know how many sacks Michigan had?  Zero.  

Interestingly, Ohio State didn't have any either but then Michigan only attempted 16 passes so there were not many opportunities.  

If this had been a situation like Ohio State's win over IU where the Buckeyes sacked Kurtis Rourke 5 times and the Buckeye DL effectively neutralized IU's passing game then I'd be talking about it.  If that were the case, I would agree with @MaximumSam 's point that the loss should be attributed to the Buckeye OL being a cobbled together group of backups filling in for NFL bound guys.  

I'd look at that situation and think "Ok, we lost because our OL sucks and that isn't entirely Day's fault.  The lack of depth is on him but losing multiple starters to injury is going to be difficult for any team."  

That wasn't the situation.  Ohio State's OL was not effective at run blocking, specifically on inside runs.  We all knew before this game started that Michigan's strength was their DL and tOSU's weakness was their OL.  That was a matchup problem for Ohio State but the coaching staff made that MUCH worse by putting tOSU's weakness against Michigan's strength repeatedly.  Why?  

[MrNubbz]

Buckeye fans clamoring for Vrabel on the internets, but Vrabes doesn't seem to be a big fan of coaching the college game. also: he'll get an NFL offer sooner than later if he wants it imo.

Correct he didn't like recruiting, some of the homer board posters still believe in Santa Claus. Now he would have to deal with NIL and portaling kids. In the League the Front office drafts players whose only choice is to sit if they don't like it.And the F.O. also negotiates the contracts. Hell for one coach that's like 365days a year. Ya Vrabel has enough coin why work 7 days a week for 12 months - if you're going to have a punchers chance

[MrNubbz]

Do you know how many sacks Michigan had?  Zero. 

Great point, Howard was getting time not calling Smith's number was beyong ignorant. The only bitch i had was i'd like to have seen Devin Smith get snaps as Howard took a shot and affected his play. Day really !@#$ disgusts me

[Mdot21]

I think we are not talking about it because of the portion of your post that I bolded. 

Do you know how many sacks Michigan had?  Zero. 

Interestingly, Ohio State didn't have any either but then Michigan only attempted 16 passes so there were not many opportunities. 

If this had been a situation like Ohio State's win over IU where the Buckeyes sacked Kurtis Rourke 5 times and the Buckeye DL effectively neutralized IU's passing game then I'd be talking about it.  If that were the case, I would agree with @MaximumSam 's point that the loss should be attributed to the Buckeye OL being a cobbled together group of backups filling in for NFL bound guys. 

I'd look at that situation and think "Ok, we lost because our OL sucks and that isn't entirely Day's fault.  The lack of depth is on him but losing multiple starters to injury is going to be difficult for any team." 

That wasn't the situation.  Ohio State's OL was not effective at run blocking, specifically on inside runs.  We all knew before this game started that Michigan's strength was their DL and tOSU's weakness was their OL.  That was a matchup problem for Ohio State but the coaching staff made that MUCH worse by putting tOSU's weakness against Michigan's strength repeatedly.  Why? 

Michigan didn't get sacks but that is also in part because Will Howard is a mobile QB and well QB's that can run tend to be a little bit harder to get on the ground. Michigan had 21 or 22 QB pressures (per PFF) and they did hit Howard pretty good a few times. I get what you're saying but I also just don't think Howard is that type of QB who can throw you to victory. Homeboy ain't CJ Stroud. Not even in the same universe in terms of spinning that football. Howard attempted 33 passes in the game. How many did you want him to attempt? 50? Ohio State was pretty balanced in terms of pass-run, and typically that's what you want in a game plan unless you have an ELITE passing QB...and well Will Howard is a FAR fucking cry from being an elite passer. He's a likely UDFA, not a top 10 overall pick in an NFL draft.

[MrNubbz]

they didn't get much push more like zamboni machines than the fearsome foursome

[MrNubbz]

...and well Will Howard is a FAR fucking cry from being an elite passer. 

 another gem mined by the dabbler Day,additional dirt to bury him

[Mdot21]

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[Brutus Buckeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YVDiFEuOAs