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Topic: 2024 Iowa Season thread

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LittlePig

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #168 on: November 25, 2024, 05:57:28 PM »
[img width=219.098 height=385]https://i.imgur.com/ldQ7Btd.png[/img]

aways a lack of respect for the western side of the state
CB & Sewer City can hang
Seems to overlap with the best college towns list.  What an interesting coincidence.

Do they still make Dubugue Star?  I remember that was a beer that folks used to drink back in the day.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #169 on: November 25, 2024, 06:05:47 PM »
not in Sewer City
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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #170 on: November 25, 2024, 06:26:28 PM »
Seems to overlap with the best college towns list.  What an interesting coincidence.

Do they still make Dubugue Star?  I remember that was a beer that folks used to drink back in the day.
I am an experienced Dubuque Star beer consumer from decades ago. Keep reading this because your answer is buried below.
The Dubuque Star Brewery is now owned by a winery, and beer is no longer brewed in the brewery. Much of the brewing equipment has been removed. The winery has reopened the saloon which was almost never open when I grew up in Dubuque. On weekend nights in the summer there is music outdoors, and it moves indoors in inclement weather.
Dubuque Star Brewery by Mark Roeder, on Flickr
The brewery faces the Mississippi River, and the architect designed it to look like a Mississippi River stern wheeler.
This year it was announced that the Potosi Brewing Co. would sell Dubuque Star in kegs, for sale only at the Dubuque Star Brewery. But, they don't actually sell it as Dubuque Star Beer. They are selling it as Golden Star Beer. But, I can tell you from my trusty palette, that Golden Start Beer, is indeed the original recipe. They are also selling some of the Rhomberg Beer that was sold in the late 1980s / early 1990s now being produced by the Potosi Brewing Company. I believe the Rhomberg brands are also sold only from a keg at the Dubuque Star Brewery.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #171 on: November 25, 2024, 06:33:43 PM »
Hawkeyes were damn lucky on Saturday that Jackson Stratton did not go down. Marcos Lainez was dressed, but had a cast on his nonthrowing hand. I don't think a guy can play QB with a cast on either hand.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #172 on: November 25, 2024, 06:37:51 PM »
was Jackson running around?

or sliding and protecting himself?

I watched the first half from a crowded bar, I don't remember him taking big hits
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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #173 on: November 25, 2024, 06:55:31 PM »
I am an experienced Dubuque Star beer consumer from decades ago. Keep reading this because your answer is buried below.
The Dubuque Star Brewery is now owned by a winery, and beer is no longer brewed in the brewery. 
Okay, but that is BS. I'm pretty sure Iowa is not grape country. 

Wine is SO much about locality, climate, weather, and the conditions not only in which certain grape varietals grow, but in which they grow WELL for making wine. Terroir is a thing. And an important one.

One of the beautiful things about beer, however, is how it is MUCH less affected by terroir. Ingredients for brewing are very stable for transport. The process is key, and you can adjust process here or there in various ways to account for differences in ingredients. 

Essentially winemaking is very much a 'farm to table' sort of idea, while beermaking is very much a 'baking' process. The former, you evaluate what the land gives you and try to massage it into the best product. The latter, you manipulate the process scientifically so that you turn what the land gives you into what you want. 

I'm not going to say that Iowa shouldn't have wineries... But I'm going to say that Iowa shouldn't be shuttering breweries and turning them into wineries. 

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #174 on: November 25, 2024, 10:37:13 PM »
He would rollout and pass, or roll out and try to pass, but get sacked. Otherwise, he was not running.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #175 on: November 25, 2024, 10:44:30 PM »
Rolling the QB out of the pocket???

Brian is gone!
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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #176 on: November 25, 2024, 10:58:29 PM »
Okay, but that is BS. I'm pretty sure Iowa is not grape country.

Wine is SO much about locality, climate, weather, and the conditions not only in which certain grape varietals grow, but in which they grow WELL for making wine. Terroir is a thing. And an important one.

One of the beautiful things about beer, however, is how it is MUCH less affected by terroir. Ingredients for brewing are very stable for transport. The process is key, and you can adjust process here or there in various ways to account for differences in ingredients.

Essentially winemaking is very much a 'farm to table' sort of idea, while beermaking is very much a 'baking' process. The former, you evaluate what the land gives you and try to massage it into the best product. The latter, you manipulate the process scientifically so that you turn what the land gives you into what you want.

I'm not going to say that Iowa shouldn't have wineries... But I'm going to say that Iowa shouldn't be shuttering breweries and turning them into wineries.
The Dubuque Star Brewery closed for the final time circa 1990. It closed when the big brands were attempting to crowd out the small regional and area breweries. Dubuque was known for its low beer prices, as the major breweries tried to put breweries like this one under.
When the brewery was owned and operated in the 1970s and '80s by Joseph Pickett, Pabst Blue Ribbon essentially drove Pickett to sell the brewery through an unsuccessful lawsuit Pabst filed over the name of a product that Pickett which by my unreliable memory was called "Champale." Pabst had a similar product and they were a cross between wine and beer. Pabst claimed the name violated their trademark or some such thing. While the lawsuit was unsuccessful, the Jos. S. Pickett Brewing Co. was had to sell, having been put under by the attorney's fees expended to defend the lawsuit.
Then the Dubuque Star Brewery went through a succession of owners until it finally stopped producing circa 1990.
By circa 2000-05, microbreweries, became the rage, but it was too late.
The city acquired the property and sold it to these winery people. After the winery was going well, they expressed interest in brewing beer here again. But apparently there is a federal law that prohibits wines from being made in the same location where beer is brewed. I think they tried to get Congress to change the law, but I am not sure if that was successful.
Meanwhile, just across the river in Wisconsin, around 2010, Dubuque Star's former local competitor, the Potosi Brewing Co. reopened as a non-profit brewery after being shuttered since the late 1970s. They also opened a restaurant, bar, and national beer museum in the same very old building which had been dilapidated. I am not sure how they raised the money to do it. Potosi makes great beer!
The Dubuque Star Brewing Co. is for sale, again. The folks who are operating it as a winery, saloon and restaurant, are aging out.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #177 on: November 26, 2024, 08:24:25 AM »
This one screams NIL.

Starzyk decommits from Iowa
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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #178 on: November 26, 2024, 09:23:44 AM »
The Dubuque Star Brewing Co. is for sale, again. The folks who are operating it as a winery, saloon and restaurant, are aging out.
Hopefully the new owners return to making beer. 

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #179 on: November 26, 2024, 09:24:41 AM »
This one screams NIL.

Starzyk decommits from Iowa
Maybe, but the decommit is announced on a Monday after Iowa Kicker Drew Stevens was Big Ten Special Teams Player of the Week, and Stevens has one more year of eligibility. Stevens is 17/20 on field goals for the season, and kicked 5 field goals Saturday.
At Iowa he would play behind Drew Stevens his first year.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #180 on: November 26, 2024, 09:33:22 AM »
That's all well and good, but Michigan's kicker is a junior.

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Re: 2024 Iowa Season thread
« Reply #181 on: November 26, 2024, 09:34:41 AM »
$$$ for a 5-foot-9, 172-pound kicker????
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