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ELA

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2024 Crootin Talk
« on: May 10, 2022, 10:47:00 AM »
5* QB Dylan Railoa, son of Nebraska alum Dominic Raiola, and 247s #1 QB in the 2024 class commits to OSU

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2022, 11:07:10 AM »
Long way off until the ink dries
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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2022, 11:11:35 AM »
Long way off until the ink dries
And even then it doesn't matter anymore.

But would you rather talk Blue Jackets/Red Wings odds in the NHL Draft lottery tonight

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2022, 11:46:41 AM »
Hmm,I've got yard work - lots of it too
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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2022, 12:13:22 PM »
I'm sure you could find an OSU booster to pay the kid a couple million dollars to do it for you

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2022, 02:02:57 PM »
will CFB ever recover from this?

Serious question... 

I guess I'm happy to have lived when it was less of a business and more of a goal and honor to play... i certainly caught the tail end of it and saw the transition.  

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2022, 02:22:29 PM »
The NCAA clarifies the types of NIL payments and booster involvement that should be considered recruiting violations, but whether a crackdown is coming remains to be seen.

https://apnews.com/article/business-sports-college-e28e3a7bd008e9f9269484a5710447e4

Eleven months after the NCAA lifted most of its restrictions against athletes cashing in on their fame, college sports leaders are trying to send a warning to schools and boosters it believes have crossed a line: There are still rules here and they will be enforced.

But following last year’s Supreme Court ruling against the NCAA in an antitrust case, is a crackdown on so-called collectives brokering name, image and likeness deals still likely — or even possible?

“I didn’t think (the NCAA) would not try at some point,” said Maddie Salamone, a sports attorney and former Duke lacrosse player. “That’s why many attorneys have been kind of giving cautious advice in terms of what is and is not allowed. Especially when it comes to collectives and different NIL deals.”

The NCAA’s Division I Board of Directors on Monday approved guidance developed by a group of college sports administrators, clarifying the types of NIL payments and booster involvement that should be considered recruiting violations.


“Specifically, the guidance defines as a booster any third-party entity that promotes an athletics program, assists with recruiting or assists with providing benefits to recruits, enrolled student-athletes or their family members,” the NCAA release said. “The definition could include ‘collectives’ set up to funnel name, image and likeness deals to prospective student-athletes or enrolled student-athletes who might be considering transferring.”

The NCAA added a reminder: Recruiting rules bar boosters from recruiting or providing benefits to prospects.

The guidance is effective immediately. NCAA enforcement staff was directed to look for possible violations that might have occurred before May 9, 2022, but “pursue only those actions that clearly are contrary to the published interim policy, including the most severe violations of recruiting rules or payment for athletics performance.”

The NCAA neither changed its rules nor created new ones.

“I don’t think they’re even necessarily clarifying the rules,” said attorney Darren Heitner, who helped craft Florida’s NIL law. “My understanding is this is just certain individuals who have made up a working committee deciding that after almost 11 months we want to enforce our rules.”

The rise of booster-funded collectives prompted the board in February to ask the DI Council to review the NCAA’s interim NIL policy. The concern among many in college sports has been that payments from collectives are being made to high school recruits and to college athletes in hopes of getting them to transfer to a particular school.

“Some things look very much like pay-for-play,” Salamone said. “There are rules on the books within the NCAA around boosters. The fact that the NCAA has been hesitant to enforce anything I think has emboldened a lot of people around this issue to be a little bit more obvious.”

Last year, the NCAA removed its longstanding ban against athletes earning money from sponsorship and endorsements deals. What remained in place, however, were three pillars of the NCAA’s amateur athlete model:


— Athletes could not be paid solely for playing their sport;

— Compensation could not be used to lure an athlete to a particular school;

— Financial arrangements must have some type quid pro quo agreement in which the athlete was being paid for services provided, like a social media post or appearance.

The NCAA did not ban boosters from being involved in NIL activity. However, without detailed NCAA rules and with state-level NIL laws differing across the country, it left both schools and the association struggling to determine what activities were impermissible.

Some state laws also prohibit boosters from engaging with recruits, but there has been little appetite for enforcement of those laws.

Should the NCAA start targeting some collectives it could trigger a new round of lawsuits against the association.
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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2022, 04:14:27 PM »
I'm sure you could find an OSU booster to pay the kid a couple million dollars to do it for you
You're not talking to a talented recruit,my fastest time was at last call
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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2022, 04:18:58 PM »
will CFB ever recover from this?

Serious question...

I guess I'm happy to have lived when it was less of a business and more of a goal and honor to play... i certainly caught the tail end of it and saw the transition. 
nearest I can figure out the new rules are playground football meets Wall Street
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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2022, 06:27:10 PM »
will CFB ever recover from this?

Serious question...

I guess I'm happy to have lived when it was less of a business and more of a goal and honor to play... i certainly caught the tail end of it and saw the transition. 
I wonder if I ever saw the before times. I came around in the early BCS era.

I will always remember a round of media laments when it started to come around that Wisconsin was charging people four figures for the opportunity to buy tickets under the guise of donations. From that point, much of this was a matter of time.

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2022, 07:21:09 PM »
You're not talking to a talented recruit,my fastest time was at last call
I assumed it was after your last burrito

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2022, 07:23:27 PM »
I wonder if I ever saw the before times. I came around in the early BCS era.

I will always remember a round of media laments when it started to come around that Wisconsin was charging people four figures for the opportunity to buy tickets under the guise of donations. From that point, much of this was a matter of time.
I don't mind the players getting theirs.  But there's also a reason the pros have salary caps.  Without competitive balance, I think there is waning interest.  I think by eliminating the transfer portal, and reinstituting the one year sit out rule, while getting rid of all waivers, while keeping NLI unregulated, you can strike a good balance 

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2022, 07:29:38 PM »
rich get richer. but OSU got the highest rated QB recruit in ages with Ewers and he lasted barely a year thanks to the portal. even if he signs, good chance he's not there all 4 years.

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Re: 2024 Crootin Talk
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2022, 12:34:27 AM »
When you kick things off by landing the top player in the country and he plays QB, that's probably going to boost recruiting a little. Particularly on the offensive side of the ball. But yeah, Ewars, Martell... they don't all pan out. 
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