2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread

[utee94]

I've put in a word with some of Texas' billionaires to pay him whatever it takes to never show up at a Longhorn game again...

[OrangeAfroMan]

First school with 3 football & 3 basketball NCs

[Brutus Buckeye]

First school with 3 football & 3 basketball NCs

Who cares about basketball? 

[Kris60]

Feel bad for Emmanuel Sharp. I’d rather a guy make a great play to win it than a guy screw up to lose it . 

Tough last two possessions for Sharp.

[Kris60]

Well, shit.  I literally thought the championship game was tomorrow.  College basketball does a great job of promotiong the beginning of their postseason.  Guess Ill enjoy the last 5 minutes

I have to ask. The national championship has been played the Monday after the Final Four literally your entire life.  How did you think it was going to be Tuesday this year?

[ELA]

I have to ask. The national championship has been played the Monday after the Final Four literally your entire life.  How did you think it was going to be Tuesday this year?

I don't know, just slipped my mind

[utee94]

I'm almost always busy on Monday nights.  For the past several years it's been my son's boy scout meetings, I'm the troop committee chair so I attend most of the meetings.  Before that, I often had global work calls with China and Singapore on Monday evenings.  So I rarely get to see the NC game.

But I did catch the last 10 minutes or so of the 2nd half last night, it was exciting.  Congrats to the Gators.

I have a couple of UH grad friends that I'm sure will be pretty droopy today.  In their lifetimes the Coogs have been close several times, and just never able to make that last step.

[Mdot21]

days of Spurrier & Tebow are long gone now. 

Congrats, Florida is a basketball school now. One of the best basketball schools in the SEC 

[medinabuckeye1]

I'm almost always busy on Monday nights.  For the past several years it's been my son's boy scout meetings, I'm the troop committee chair so I attend most of the meetings.  

I have a six year old that will hopefully be doing that soon.  One of my buddies told me to have my wife take him to the meetings.  He said that if I show up, they'll see me coming and I'll end up leaving as Scoutmaster.  

[utee94]

I have a six year old that will hopefully be doing that soon.  One of my buddies told me to have my wife take him to the meetings.  He said that if I show up, they'll see me coming and I'll end up leaving as Scoutmaster. 

Ha!  It's true.

But I will say that it's a great way to spend time with my son.

I wish I had something similar with my daughter, as she's gotten older it's been harder for me to stay connected and be a meaningful part of her life.  Helping her with calculus and physics homework is about the most I can do at this point, and I'm grateful for that time I get to spend with her.

[medinabuckeye1]

Is it me or is Florida's BB history oddly feast-or-famine?  
Short version of this post, Florida is:

• tied for 49th in NCAA Appearances
• tied for 25th in S16's
• tied for 17th in E8's
• tied for 15th in F4's
• tied for 8th in NC's

It just seems weird to me that they are so feast-or-famine.  There are only nine schools with 3 or more NC's.  Among those schools, Florida is:

• Tied for last in F4's
• Dead last in E8's
• Dead last in S16's, the 3+NC school with the next fewest has half-again as many
• Dead last in NCAA Appearances, the 3+NC school with the next fewest has almost twice as many

I looked it up and the Gators have:

• 3 NC's (I didn't have to look this one up)
• 4 NCG appearances
• 6 F4's
• 10 E8's
• 12 S16's (includes one vacated)
• 19 R32's (includes two vacated)
• 25 NCAA appearances (includes two vacated)

25 NCAA appearances isn't that many but their record in the Tournament is incredible and seems to get better with each round (relatively):

• 19-6 first round (17-6 if you leave out the vacated ones)
• 12-7 R32 (11-6 if you leave out the vacated ones)
• 10-2 S16 (10-1 if you leave out the vacated one)
• 6-4 E8
• 4-2 National semi-final
• 3-1 NC

Like I said, 25 appearances isn't that many.  By my count on wiki, their 23 NCAA Appearances (wiki only counts non-vacated appearances) is tied for 49th in the Country.  Even their 12 S16's is "only" tied for 25th nationally.  Here is the top-25:

• 45 Kentucky
• 36 North Carolina
• 35 UCLA
• 34 Dook
• 32 Kansas
• 24 Louisville
• 24 Syracuse
• 22 Indiana
• 22 Arizona
• 21 Michigan State
• 19 Villanova
• 18 Michigan
• 18 Connecticut
• 17 Kansas State
• 17 Notre Dame
• 16 Marquette
• 16 Utah
• 15 Arkansas
• 15 Houston
• 15 Maryland
• 15 Purdue
• 14 Ohio State
• 13 Cincinnati
• 13 Gonzaga
• 12 San Francisco
• 12 Florida

At the E8 level they move up to tied for 17th nationally:

• 38 Kentucky
• 29 North Carolina
• 25 Dook
• 24 Kansas
• 22 UCLA
• 15 Michigan State
• 14 Michigan
• 14 Ohio State
• 14 Villanova
• 14 Kansas State
• 13 Connecticut
• 12 Arkansas
• 11 Indiana
• 11 Louisville
• 11 Arizona
• 11 Oklahoma State
• 10 Syracuse
• 10 Illinois
• 10 Florida

At the F4 level they move up to tied for 15th:

• 21 North Carolina
• 17 Kentucky
• 18 UCLA
• 18 Dook
• 15 Kansas
• 10 Ohio State
• 10 Michigan State
• 8 Indiana
• 8 Louisville
• 7 Connecticut
• 7 Houston
• 6 Arkansas
• 6 Cincinnati
• 5 Oklahoma State
• 6 Syracuse
• 6 Villanova
• 6 Florida

At the NC level they are tied for 8th:

• 11 UCLA
• 8 Kentucky
• 6 Connecticut
• 6 North Carolina
• 5 Dook
• 5 Indiana
• 4 Kansas
• 3 Florida
• 3 Villanova
• 2 Cincinnati
• 2 Louisville
• 2 Michigan State
• 2 NCST
• 2 OkSU
• 2 San Francisco

This post isn't intended as a knock on Florida nor really to build Florida up either.  It is merely an observation.  I find it odd that Florida is only behind the Blue Bloods in terms of number of Championships but 

[ELA]

UConn might be even crazier.

Only UCLA and UNC have more NCs, but Kansas State has more Elite 8s.  They won the NC in 6 of their 7 Final 4 appearances.  They've won all 6 national titles in the past 26 years.  But they've also missed the tourney 9 times in that span.  They've won a title in roughly 1/3 of their tourney appearances in the past two and half decades

[MarqHusker]

I watched the last 1:30 of the game.

Houston has participated in two of the more dubious NCAA finals (endings)

[medinabuckeye1]

UConn might be even crazier.

Only UCLA and UNC have more NCs, but Kansas State has more Elite 8s.  They won the NC in 6 of their 7 Final 4 appearances.  They've won all 6 national titles in the past 26 years.  But they've also missed the tourney 9 times in that span.  They've won a title in roughly 1/3 of their tourney appearances in the past two and half decades

UCONN is definitely crazier at least over the last 26 years.  From 1999-2025 the schools with multiple NC's are:

• 6 UCONN - 1999, 2004, 2011, 2014, 2023, 2024
• 3 Florida - 2006, 2007, 2025
• 3 UNC - 2005, 2009, 2017
• 3 Dook - 2001, 2010, 2015
• 2 Kansas - 2008, 2022
• 2 Villanova - 2016, 2018

FWIW, the above includes 19 of the 26 National Championships from 1999-2025 (27 years but 26 Champions due to Covid).  The other seven are:

• Baylor, 2021
• Virginia, 2019
• Louisville, 2013*
• Kentucky, 2012
• Syracuse, 2003
• Maryland, 2002
• Michigan State, 2000

*subsequently vacated

Only seven of the 26 (27%) Championships since 1999 were won by a school that "only" won one in that stretch and three of those were won by schools that DO have other NC's (Kentucky with eight total, Louisville with 3 total but one vacated, and MSU with two total).  

So here are the 13 schools that have won at least one of the 26 NC's since 1999 with their number of NCAA appearances and S16's then doing NC's as ratios of those: