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Topic: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #602 on: December 23, 2022, 03:46:43 PM »
All-time commits per 247. How'd they work out for your school? Of UW's 5* (all five of them) only one lived up to it, maybe. Career showing looks more like a 4* to me.



1. Very good player, hampered a lot with injuries
2. Hasn't seen the field much - passed up by lesser rated kids
3. Bust
4. Great player, but not 5*. 3rd team AA, 6th round pick.
5. Injuries
6. LB recruit turned into a very good TE
7. Very solid Big Ten back
8. Really good Big Ten player

#19 on 247's list was Joe Thomas. #10 was Mertz.
I feel a bit bad for Bell. His last year was my first and that knee injury just ruined him. He was just awful that season.

He also had that punt at Michigan hit him. Too bad he's remembered for that.

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« Reply #603 on: December 23, 2022, 04:29:01 PM »
I feel a bit bad for Bell. His last year was my first and that knee injury just ruined him. He was just awful that season.

He also had that punt at Michigan hit him. Too bad he's remembered for that.
I was there and I was really excited to see UW beat Michigan, until that happened. 
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #604 on: December 23, 2022, 05:20:21 PM »
All-Time for Florida:



1 - 0.999 - played well, tore up his knee, wound up a 4th-rounder (underperformed for his UF career)
2 - stuck behind Rex Grossman, transferred to Miami and did fine
3 - 2-time all-SEC performer, but underperformed for a high 5*
4 - All-American stud athlete, helped win 2 NCs, 1st round pick
5 - All-American CB, 1st rounder
6 - all-SEC blocker, has probably had a better NFL career than college
7 - good player, but air head/pothead, undrafted FA (bust)
8 - great player, but got hurt, played well again, last pick in 1st round, played well, got hurt again (just an oft-injured career)
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So I'd say 2/8 performed how you'd hope.  Another 2 had injuries hamper something greater (probably/possibly).  None of them were bad in college. 3 First Rounders.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #605 on: December 24, 2022, 05:10:37 AM »
Michigan's Top 10 All-Time recruits are...

1) Rashan Gary, DL (#1 player, 2016) - 1.0000 - he's tied with Jadeveon Clowney, Robert Nkemediche, Vince Young, and Ernie Sims as the highest rated recruit in the history of the recruit rankings. Was an All-B1G 1st team player and #11 overall NFL draft pick. 

2) Jabrill Peppers, ATH (#3 player, 2014) - 0.9992 - All-B1G 1st team player, Heisman Trophy finalist (lol), and 1st rd NFL draft pick.

3) Ryan Mallett, QB (#5 player, 2007) - 0.9978 - was at Michigan for all of 5 minutes. Went on to be really good for Arkansas. Not so great in the NFL though.

4) LaMarr Woodley, DE (#4 player, 2003) - 0.9972 - All-B1G/All-American 1st team player, 2nd rd pick (should've been 1st) - dominant college player with a very good NFL career. 

5) Prescott Burgess, LB (#5 player, 2003) - 0.9970 - solid college player, not All-Conference caliber, but startable. 6th rd NFL draft pick. Most definitely did not live up to the hype.

6) Kelly Baraka, RB (#12 player, 2001) - 0.9944 - was one of the most hyped RB recruits from the state in forever, broke Tyrone Wheatley and Charles Rogers state track records....dude was a freak athlete and a big RB. Fast as all fk and not a little 5'9/5'10 guy...6'1, 200+ and could fly. Major disappointment. Was at Michigan for all of 5 minutes, got kicked out for smoking the ganja and other off-field issues. He transferred to some JUCO I think once he got kicked out of Michigan and got kicked out of the JUCO as well. Head. Case.

7) Brandon Graham, DE (#16 player, 2006) - 0.9930 - if there is a most underrated 5* ever- if that's even possible....it's him. Graham was a dominant college player an All-Conference, All-American player and 1st rd NFL draft pick who has had an amazing NFL career. He kind of gets slept on and people don't realize how good he truly was because he was on those god awful RichRod teams. IF the guy had played his JR/SR years for Carr or Harbaugh and was on winning teams he'd have lot more RESPKT on his name. 

8) Daxton Hill, S (#14 player, 2019) - 0.9927  - All-Conference type player and 1st rd NFL draft pick. Stud defensive back.

9) Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (#12 player, 2017) - 0.9925 - freak athlete but he was better as a punt returner than he was WR....speaks volumes to Harbaugh and his offensive staff turning the best WR recruit that state of MI had produced in nearly 20 years into an afterthought. Good college player, is projecting to be a better NFL player.

10) Will Johnson, CB (#15 player, 2022) - 0.9924 - only a true frosh but the early returns are highly impressive. 1st team Frosh All-American and was honestly Michigan's best CB by far- as a true freshman. Ceiling is super high and he's got 2 more years and then he's off to the 1st rd of the NFL draft imo.

I'd say they hit 6 out of 10 with Gary, Peppers, Woodley, Graham, Hill, and Johnson. Baraka and Mallett were flat out busts for Michigan. And Prescott Burgess & DPJ were solid college players that never lived up to the hype.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #606 on: December 24, 2022, 08:18:11 AM »
Someone do this:



Clearly #1 is a bust.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #607 on: December 24, 2022, 11:55:52 AM »
Someone do this:



Clearly #1 is a bust.
For Ohio State he certainly was. Jury is still out on him at Texas, next year is his put up or shut up year imo. We should cut him some slack, Sark is his coach and he was banged up/injured this year. Very talented player, but he’s going to be losing the best RB in CFB, which is tough loss for any young QB. 

Pryor was so good at Ohio St that it’s hard to say he didn’t quite live up but that might be the case. Tattogate obviously derailed his career which with all the NIL crap and teams like A&M openly buying ‘crootin classes- just seems laughable now that he got pinched for something so ridiculous. Still feel like he went to the wrong system going to play for Tressell, dude was tailor made for the spread/zone read option. 

Ted Ginn was fkn awesome. Still might be to this day the fastest human being I’ve seen play football live. It’s either him or Percy Harvin. It’s close. Harvin probably more bouncy/agile/electric whatever you want to call it- Ginn just faster than all fk when he had a lane and hit top gear. Probably my favorite OSU player ever.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #608 on: December 24, 2022, 12:12:48 PM »
Yeah, the jury is still out on a number of those guys, of course, as they are still in school.

By 247's definition, a 5* player is a first-round NFL pick. Ginn and Bosa fit the bill there.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #609 on: December 24, 2022, 12:36:53 PM »
All-time commits per 247. How'd they work out for your school?
link for this or do I have to dig?
might not be worth it for a Husker fan
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« Reply #610 on: December 24, 2022, 12:46:33 PM »
link for this or do I have to dig?
might not be worth it for a Husker fan
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« Reply #611 on: December 24, 2022, 12:52:55 PM »

Marlon Lucky - not bad, but not NFL material - good pass catcher out of the backfield
Chris Septek - forgettable - bust
Aaron Green - no Ahman Green - transferred out - bust
Baker - I actually tailgate with him, his brother and famous father - decent solid career - not bad, but nothing special
Suh - better than expected obviously - all time great~
Cortney - solid career - nothing special
Tyjon - bust
Turner - started at left tackle as a true frosh, moved to right tackle - hasn't been dominant - jury still out.  Hopefully a big season coming up
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« Reply #612 on: January 03, 2023, 05:19:02 PM »
The Nebraska staff are still adding recruits to the 2023 class. Ethan Nation from Roswell (Ga.) took an official visit to Nebraska in December and left impressed. Following his visit he determined he would announce his commitment at the UA All-American game.

Nation said the interest from Nebraska came about very quickly. The three-star cornerback missed a couple of calls, fielded the next one, and the Huskers were sending a car to pick him up and bring him to Lincoln for an official visit.

With no existing relationships with any staff, things have come together very quickly between Nebraska and Nation. The Huskers see a fit for Nation at every spot in the secondary.

Nation, a 5-foot-10 and 162-pound defensive back, joins Dwight Bootle from Miami (Fla.) Palmetto, Rahmir Stewart from Philadelphia (Pa.) Imhotep Institute, and Syncere Safeeullah as the other members in the recruiting class. Nebraska has also landed portal transfer safety Corey Collier from Florida.
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« Reply #613 on: January 03, 2023, 07:58:55 PM »
Nebraska added its 30th scholarship player for 2023 and its 23rd overall high school/junior college addition on Tuesday. Four-star edge Cameron Lenhardt of IMG Academy officially committed to Nebraska for a second time during the Under Armour All-American Game on ESPN.

The NCAA rule that allowed all of Nebraska’s June visitors another opportunity to visit Lincoln and meet the new staff ended up being huge. Of all the repeat visitors, only wide receiver Barry Jackson didn’t end up a Husker. After Lenhardt’s repeat visit to Nebraska, you could tell things looked very good for the Huskers.

Lenhardt now becomes the fourth high school/junior college edge player NU has added to its class of 2023. This was a clear area of need, and you can argue the Matt Rhule coaching staff addressed it as much as any position on the roster.


This is the second 2023 recruiting class addition Nebraska has added from IMG Academy in Florida. Lenhardt, along with defensive back Syncere Safeeullah, both played at IMG this past season. Before this year, the Huskers have only signed one player from IMG Academy – offensive lineman Broc Bando.

Lenhardt is from the state of New York. With his addition, he’s now the 13th different state represented in Nebraska’s 2023 signing class. You won’t find very many programs if any, in the country with this type of state representation in a recruiting class.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #614 on: January 04, 2023, 07:51:33 AM »


Only 5 5*

Rogers - obviously lived up to it in college; injuries and addiction derailed his pro career

Smoker - dealt with injuries and addiction while still in college, but had a solid bounceback as a senior, not a 5* though

Gholston - very good college career, but not 5*, certainly a 4*

McDowell - certainly was on track to live up to it, until his junior year, when he more or less quit

Martin - remember seeing him commit to MSU over Oklahoma live on ESPN in the dorm, and everyone just saying, "wait, what?"  Not sure how a guard should really ever be a 5*, but he had a very good career

Knott - multi-year starter, but more of a borderline 3/4 than a 4/5

Richard - became the starter late as a true freshman, and was great.  Ended with 654 yards on 4.9 ypc; but in his 3 games to end the season, as the #1 back, averaged 6.3 ypc.  Saw him run for 136 yards against Indiana in person.  Once Bobby Williams was fired, he transferred to Missouri, wound up being a reserve LB.  Not sure what happened.

Thomas - wasn't done growing, and outgrew his LB spot.  He was a starting DT on a CFP team, so I think lived up to his rating, or at least close to it

Dobbs - bust beyond bust.  Couldn't see the field, transferred to Memphis, and apparently can't get on the field there either


 

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