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Topic: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal

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Cincydawg

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2022, 08:51:13 AM »
Can a player commit to a team that didn't offer?

If a team offers, can they not accept a commit?

Me confused.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2022, 08:52:16 AM »
UGA is losing a lot of former 4-5 star players this off season to the portal, which seems a bit odd to me.  I surmise they figured they would not get PT?

One WR went to Bama where he thinks he'd get more targets.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2022, 10:48:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 15, 2022, 08:51:13 AM
Can a player commit to a team that didn't offer?

If a team offers, can they not accept a commit?

Me confused.
To the first question, sort of. A kid can certainly announce that he is going somewhere when the team has no intention of taking him.

To the second, you bet they can. This will lead us to the reality that a “offer” is very often and illusory promise, but then again, a commitment is the same way.

in short, none of it REALLY counts until the dust settles
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2022, 11:23:27 AM »
I know all offers are contingent, but I figured if the contingencies were met, the offer would be good unless withdrawn before the player accepts.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2022, 12:05:46 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 15, 2022, 11:23:27 AM
I know all offers are contingent, but I figured if the contingencies were met, the offer would be good unless withdrawn before the player accepts.


Nah. 

A lot of this is solved through sort of crappy personal signaling. Like a staff just stops talking to a kid, and hope he gets the message.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2022, 12:21:45 PM »
I would prefer an offer be in writing and legally binding as a contract.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2022, 01:19:48 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 15, 2022, 08:51:13 AM
Can a player commit to a team that didn't offer?

If a team offers, can they not accept a commit?

Me confused.
Yeah, frequently the offers are contingent on something.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2022, 02:00:57 PM »
I would guess all offers have contingencies.

I would think a player who meets them would be accepted.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2022, 03:14:27 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 15, 2022, 12:21:45 PM
I would prefer an offer be in writing and legally binding as a contract.
I think for the most part coaches would not, or the line would just move. They'd like kids to feel like they have offers and good ones to feel like they're committed. 

Then again, when the coach is on the hot seat, he wants it all locked in, because then there's some skin in the game with a firing. There's something interesting in the fact that the early signing day is less early than it could be, in part because kids signing in August makes coach firing harder and more messy. When push comes to shove, coach firings are an engine of sorts for a large part of P5 football. 
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2022, 03:14:49 PM »
Quote from: ELA on April 15, 2022, 01:19:48 PM
Yeah, frequently the offers are contingent on something.
Being better than another guy who could take the spot, often. 
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2022, 03:54:31 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 15, 2022, 12:21:45 PM
I would prefer an offer be in writing and legally binding as a contract.
they are, its just the date those can be sent to kids is known as national signing day. kids don't have to sign on that day. nor do schools have to send offers that day. its just they can't do it before that day.

all "offers" before are just statements of intent to offer, really.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2022, 03:57:37 PM »
Oh, I got it, I didn't know that.  Makes more sense.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2022, 09:33:50 PM »
4* S Eliot Washington may have flipped from Alabama to MSU, as one does
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2022, 10:38:18 PM »
Quote from: ELA on April 16, 2022, 09:33:50 PM
4* S Eliot Washington may have flipped from Alabama to MSU, as one does
Apparently his uncles both played at MSU under JLS, and the first year of Dantonio, so it's not totally out of the blue
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