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Topic: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #364 on: November 28, 2022, 07:57:47 PM »
Dante Moore removed all Oregon stuff from his Twitter profile

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« Reply #365 on: November 28, 2022, 10:53:39 PM »
Michigan lands 2024 4* OL Luke Hamilton from the great state of Ohio today.
One of my good friends is close friends with his dad. Dad was an OL at Toledo, then became an o-line coach. Very interesting situation. OSU didn’t even make him an offer. Penn State did and a couple other top tiers.

I’ll say this. His HS team had a good season, but they aren’t in a tough conference. Rankings on him are interesting because some have him as one of the top 10 OL in the country and others have him considerably lower. I want this kid to be great, but imo opinion, he’s had success at Avon because he’s so much bigger than most kids. He seems slow to me. Maybe that improves by college, but a strong, quick DE would make him look bad. We’ll see: rooting for this kid because of the personal connection, but I’m not convinced.

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« Reply #366 on: November 28, 2022, 11:12:41 PM »
One of my good friends is close friends with his dad. Dad was an OL at Toledo, then became an o-line coach. Very interesting situation. OSU didn’t even make him an offer. Penn State did and a couple other top tiers.

I’ll say this. His HS team had a good season, but they aren’t in a tough conference. Rankings on him are interesting because some have him as one of the top 10 OL in the country and others have him considerably lower. I want this kid to be great, but imo opinion, he’s had success at Avon because he’s so much bigger than most kids. He seems slow to me. Maybe that improves by college, but a strong, quick DE would make him look bad. We’ll see: rooting for this kid because of the personal connection, but I’m not convinced.
I have no idea how you scout offensive line prospects at this point. As you said, any kid worth a top end power 5. Offer is going to be so physically different from anyone he plays, and most of these camps are glorified seven on seven. Sadly it's been over a decade, but my wife's cousin was on the Pennsylvania state championship team at the highest level, and they had an offensive lineman who was a 4* prospect.  He wound up going to Michigan, and I went to see them play maybe three or four times that year.  My takeaway was that he was just big. He pancaked his guy most of the time, but I felt like if he was going to be an impact player at the Big Ten level, he should be able to take these 215 lb defensive lineman, knock them over, and get to the second level. I almost never saw him do that. He would regularly flatten whatever defensive lineman was across from him, but he would go down with them.  He is the only power five level offensive lineman I have seen play in high school

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #367 on: November 28, 2022, 11:23:04 PM »
I have no idea how you scout offensive line prospects at this point. As you said, any kid worth a top end power 5. Offer is going to be so physically different from anyone he plays, and most of these camps are glorified seven on seven. Sadly it's been over a decade, but my wife's cousin was on the Pennsylvania state championship team at the highest level, and they had an offensive lineman who was a 4* prospect.  He wound up going to Michigan, and I went to see them play maybe three or four times that year.  My takeaway was that he was just big. He pancaked his guy most of the time, but I felt like if he was going to be an impact player at the Big Ten level, he should be able to take these 215 lb defensive lineman, knock them over, and get to the second level. I almost never saw him do that. He would regularly flatten whatever defensive lineman was across from him, but he would go down with them.  He is the only power five level offensive lineman I have seen play in high school

It's interesting becuase you have a few types:

-Kid who is big, fast, kills it. That's what you want, but has most of the questions everyone else does. Has he tapped out his potential? How will it look against better guys? Is he gonna react the right way when a senior just whips is ass in Oklahoma drill for a while period
-Kid who is big, fast and isn't good enough. I lived near a town with a mid-range P5 recruit maybe 10 years ago. He was big and had good feet. He was also soft and didn't dominate much worse competition. A bunch of mid-range P5s were on him because they figured maybe they could coach him up to use the tools
-Small, high-upside guys. Wisconsin did a lot of damage with these. 250 pounders with the right frame. Again, that's about projection and development, but if you get the right dude with the right attitude, it comes together.
-Dudes you just get and hope for the best. Sometimes you take a guy because he's not too small and you need someone, and he just does the job.

The bust rate is of course high, and it's just a position where you never have enough skilled dudes. O Lines are like OCs, most folks are never really happy with them. 

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #368 on: November 29, 2022, 10:03:30 AM »
 OSU didn’t even make him an offer. Penn State did and a couple other top tiers.

The Buckeyes' O and D lines are saturated with high end talent.
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« Reply #369 on: November 29, 2022, 10:29:10 AM »
One of my good friends is close friends with his dad. Dad was an OL at Toledo, then became an o-line coach. Very interesting situation. OSU didn’t even make him an offer. Penn State did and a couple other top tiers.

I’ll say this. His HS team had a good season, but they aren’t in a tough conference. Rankings on him are interesting because some have him as one of the top 10 OL in the country and others have him considerably lower. I want this kid to be great, but imo opinion, he’s had success at Avon because he’s so much bigger than most kids. He seems slow to me. Maybe that improves by college, but a strong, quick DE would make him look bad. We’ll see: rooting for this kid because of the personal connection, but I’m not convinced.
does he play guard or tackle in HS? That's another thing, because my guess is they are going to want this kid for guard. Don't need to be a dancing bear crazy athlete to be guard like you do to play tackle. 

I definitely think OL 'crooting is basically a crap shoot. And I trust what Michigan has been doing with OLs the last few years under Harbaugh and Sherone Moore. These guys know their ish.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #370 on: November 29, 2022, 10:29:54 AM »
Dante Moore removed all Oregon stuff from his Twitter profile
very interesting...

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #371 on: November 29, 2022, 12:44:11 PM »
Iowa backup QB Alex Padilla has entered the portal.

He must have a pretty good idea he would not have been the starter at QB at Iowa next year.

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« Reply #372 on: November 29, 2022, 01:39:36 PM »
Iowa backup QB Alex Padilla has entered the portal.

He must have a pretty good idea he would not have been the starter at QB at Iowa next year.
rumor is Cade may be going to Iowa. Now, I have no idea on earth why any QB would willingly go to Iowa to play for Brian Ferentz, but I've seen crazier stuff in life.

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« Reply #373 on: November 29, 2022, 03:35:34 PM »
rumor is Cade may be going to Iowa. Now, I have no idea on earth why any QB would willingly go to Iowa to play for Brian Ferentz, but I've seen crazier stuff in life.
I think Cade is way undervalued.  
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #374 on: November 29, 2022, 05:06:20 PM »
I definitely think OL 'crooting is basically a crap shoot. And I trust what Michigan has been doing with OLs the last few years under Harbaugh and Sherone Moore. 
about 7-8 yrs back UM had what I thought was a haul Bosch,Kugler,Kalis,Beatty,Tillman - he drummed out or got in trouble.But anyway it looked like the Immortals of Mt Olympus,but they were OK not  horrible but not Bart Starr's O-Line either. So ya toughest call,maybe CBs too
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #375 on: November 29, 2022, 05:08:36 PM »
rumor is Cade may be going to Iowa. Now, I have no idea on earth why any QB would willingly go to Iowa to play for Brian Ferentz, but I've seen crazier stuff in life.
:D basically what we stated earlier,just NUTS,why? Specially if he has Sunday plans even as a back up
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #376 on: December 01, 2022, 07:43:00 PM »
Cade McNamara’s stay in the transfer portal is going to be a short one.

According to ESPN’s Pete Thamel, McNamara has committed to transfer to Iowa. An announcement is expected shortly.

With Spencer Petras graduating and Alex Padilla transferring, this is a huge pickup for Kirk Ferentz’s squad.
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« Reply #377 on: December 02, 2022, 07:02:20 PM »
May be an image of text that says 'In the 19-20 academic cycle, 4757 football prospects entered the portal, and 1788 found a new home. 38% of prospects who entered placed. In the 20-21 academic cycle, 6250 football prospects entered the portal, and 2575 found a new home. 41% of prospects who entered placed. In the 21-22 academic cycle, 8210 football prospects enter the portal, and 3332 found a new home. 41% of prospects who entered placed. In the last THREE years, 19,217 football prospects entered the portal, and 7695 found a new home. 40% of prospects who entered placed.'
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