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Topic: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2021, 12:30:44 PM »
The sad reality is that most of the players we cheer for wouldn't have the academic ability to get into clown college if they couldn't play ball so the academic difference between Stanford/Northwestern and Ole Miss is moot because they aren't smart enough for any of the three.  For that matter Ole Miss is probably realistically better for them because their academic abilities are MUCH closer to those of the real students at Ole Miss than they are to the real students and Stanford/Northwestern.  Ole Miss might actually have classes they could learn from where Stanford/Northwestern would just have to find a place to hide them. 
Of course that's true. Although knowing that Stanford/Northwestern have relatively high admission requirements even for scholarship athletes, any football player who could be admitted as an athlete at Stanford/Northwestern might not just be close to those of the real students at Ole Miss, they might be in the upper quartile of the general student body at Ole Miss :57:

I went with an extreme example, but I recall a real-world basketball example. Francis Okoro was being recruited heavily by Purdue, Illinois, and Oregon. He stated he considered academics to be important, and not only that, his desired major was computer science. According to US News, Illinois is the 5th-rated CS school in the nation, and Purdue is 20th. Oregon is 64th. 

Guess where he went...

What recruits say and what you think they would value doesn't often line up with what the end up doing. 

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2021, 12:42:35 PM »
The only FBS athlete I ever coached, was academically ineligible his junior year of HS, and barely graduated. He wound up playing at Northwestern

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2021, 02:41:26 PM »
Yeah, I'll believe recruits care about that when I see it. They all believe they'll win the job.

It's like the recruits who claim to care about academics and are being recruited by Stanford and Northwestern, and then end up at Ole Miss...
A LB on my HS team signed with Duke.  Skinny, rangy kid - a 'mad stork' type...and an idiot.  I was happy for him and all, buuuuuuut knew that wasn't going to work out.  And he lasted a year there. 

2 years later and SOPH I played with signed with Duke, but he'd be fine there.  And he was. 
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2021, 02:43:26 PM »
I went with an extreme example, but I recall a real-world basketball example. Francis Okoro was being recruited heavily by Purdue, Illinois, and Oregon. He stated he considered academics to be important, and not only that, his desired major was computer science. According to US News, Illinois is the 5th-rated CS school in the nation, and Purdue is 20th. Oregon is 64th.

Guess where he went...

What recruits say and what you think they would value doesn't often line up with what the end up doing.
Meh...it depends WHEN he says it, too.
Was it before or after the hostesses at Oregon "showed him around?"
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2021, 01:39:21 PM »
2023's 4* DL Joel Starlings (6'5, 310) of Virginia and 3* WR Semaj Morgan (5'10, 175) of Michigan commit to the Wolverines. 

Morgan is teammates with 4* OL Amir Herring (6'3, 280). 

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2021, 10:04:43 PM »
2023 QB Dante Moore from Michigan rises up the updated rankings- he's now rated as the #9 player in the nation in the 247Composite. If his ranking holds, he will be the 3rd highest rated player ever to come out of the state of Michigan in the 247Sports Composite rankings database. Their database goes all the way back to 2000, and since then, the highest rated players from the state of Michigan have been; 

1) Class of 2000 - 5* WR Charles Rogers, #3 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan State
2) Class of 2003 - 5* LB LaMarr Woodley, #4 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan
3) Class of 2023 - 5* QB Dante Moore, #9 overall in the nation - TBD

4) TIE
Class of 2001 - 5* RB Kelly Baraka, #12 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan
Class of 2017 - 5* WR Donovan Peoples-Jones, #12 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan

5) TIE
Class of 2006 - 5* LB Brandon Graham, #16 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan
Class of 2007 - 5* ATH Ronald Johnson, #16 overall in the nation - signed with USC
Class of 2022 - 5* CB Will Johnson, #16 overall in the nation - Michigan commit

6) Class of 2019 - 5* OT Logan Brown, #17 overall in the nation - signed with Wisconsin
7) Class of 2010 - 5* DE William Gholston, #18 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan State
8) Class of 2005 - 5* RB Kevin Grady, #21 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan
9) Class of 2021 - 5* DT Damon Payne, #24 overall in the nation - signed with Alabama
10)Class of 2014 - 5* DE Malik McDowell, #31 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan State
11) Class of 2002 - 5* DT Gabe Watson, #36 overall in the nation - signed with Michigan

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2021, 04:26:05 PM »
The Nebraska Cornhuskers haven’t had many official visits as of late, but have made them count recently, as De La Salle defender Brodie Tagaloa announced his commitment on Sunday following a trip out to Lincoln.

The Huskers like Tagaloa as a defensive lineman, where as a few other programs saw him as a tight end.

Tagaloa is the only defensive line commit in Nebraska’s class at the moment, as former commit Hayden Schwartz opened things up in October.


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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2021, 04:44:06 PM »
Michigan gets a commitment from 4* LB Raylen Wilson (6-2, 213) of Tallahassee, FL. Wilson is ranked as the #74 player overall, #6 LB, #14 player in the state of Florida in the 247Composite rankings for the 2023 class.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2021, 07:07:15 PM »
Well I was going to hit like but not really
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2021, 01:36:58 PM »
3* OG Dylan Senda (6'5, 275) of Michigan commits to Northwestern over Michigan & Michigan State in a bit of a shocker. Everyone apparently thought it would be Michigan or Michigan State.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2021, 02:48:01 PM »
3* OG Dylan Senda (6'5, 275) of Michigan commits to Northwestern over Michigan & Michigan State in a bit of a shocker. Everyone apparently thought it would be Michigan or Michigan State.
I think all of his CBs were trending UM.  Pretty surprising

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2021, 03:33:54 PM »
I think all of his CBs were trending UM.  Pretty surprising
yes, but both his parents are MSU grads I believe. It was long thought to be M-MSU battle, and Northwestern swoops in and lands him. Pretty surprising indeed.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2021, 10:59:03 PM »
yes, but both his parents are MSU grads I believe. It was long thought to be M-MSU battle, and Northwestern swoops in and lands him. Pretty surprising indeed.
Didn't realize that.  He hadn't given MSU the time of day.  There are a couple in-state recruits where it was clear they had no interest in MSU, so the toes are severed early, but of the ones MSU actually pursued, he was one of the lowest.  

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2021, 12:13:42 AM »
Purdue has a commit from 4* QB Rickie Collins (Baton Rouge, LA).

If signed, that will give Purdue a QB room with three 4* recruits, joining Michael Alaimo (2020 Montvale, NJ) and Brady Allen (2022 Fort Branch, IN).

Best rated QB room Purdue has ever had.  Brohm is killing it in the QB department.  Every QB he coaches improves noticably.  He put Western Kentucky QB Mike White in the NFL prior to leaving for Purdue.  He put David Blough in the NFL.  He's on the verge of putting a former walk on in the NFL with Aiden O'Connell.  Can't wait to see what he does with this room.

 

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