2023 NFL Thread

[ELA]

I wouldn't give them that much credit

I think the NFL has become WAY more of a meritocracy than it used to be.  Now is it still a bunch of nepo babies getting their foot in the door?  Absolutely.  So it's not gone.  But they will turn the page on you in a hurry.  And we don't have Jim Moras just bouncing around because he has head coaching experience.  It's almost the opposite, with teams looking for the next hot thing, and maybe overreaching to find it.

[FearlessF]

obviously Bieniemy has some issue GMs don't like.
But, just plucking the best coaching staff's (Super Bowl champ) coordinators isn't going away.

[OrangeAfroMan]

It's cuz he's short, right?

[847badgerfan]

Interesting.

Former Michigan football defensive coordinator to become NFL head coach (msn.com)

[Mdot21]

Interesting.

Former Michigan football defensive coordinator to become NFL head coach (msn.com)

Scary thing is, Minter is even better. 

[Honestbuckeye]

There were some general concerns with Stroud's game coming out of college. Bleacher Report NFL draft scout Derrik Klassen wrote how the Buckeyes QB "showed late or questionable decision-making when the coverage was rotated or when bodies dropped off the line of scrimmage unexpectedly." Klassen added he possesses "below-average ability to throw from crowded pockets."

Now, the biggest issue with Stroud seems to stem from his score in the S2 cognition test, an exercise that's supposed to measure how quickly a player can process information. According to Go Long's Bob McGinn, Stroud scored 18 on the test (99 is a perfect score).

"That is like red alert, red alert, you can't take a guy like that," an NFL team executive said to McGinn. "That is why I have Stroud as a bust. That in conjunction with the fact, name one Ohio State quarterback that's ever done it in the league."



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[Honestbuckeye]

As pops used to say- it just shows to go you.   

[847badgerfan]

So, what do you do if you are the Bears?

You have Justin Fields, who I think can be great. You also have the #1 overall pick in the draft, with a couple of intriguing QB's at the top.

What say you?

[ELA]

I'd see if I could work a reasonable extension out with him.  Give both sides some certainty.  I don't think you can just play it out though.  You have two good picks, so if you can extend him, you could even trade down, wins up with like 5 picks in the top 40, with a solid line and Fields

[Mdot21]

not sold on Caleb Williams. At all. High bust factor there. Jayden Daniels is a bit of an enigma to me, usually wary of one year wonders. JJ McCarthy is a late 1st rd at best. 

Drake Maye is the best bet for NFL success imo. I’d take him and trade Fields.

[FearlessF]

I always figured stroud and fields were solid NFL guys but I've been wrong before. 

I'd keep fields and trade down if I could get the "reasonable """ extension 

[Mdot21]

I always figured stroud and fields were solid NFL guys but I've been wrong before.

I'd keep fields and trade down if I could get the "reasonable """ extension

The real problem with the Bears whether they keep Fields or pick Williams or Maye is the head coach and the organization itself. 

It’s just not a good situation and odds are stacked against whoever the QB is.

[betarhoalphadelta]

The real problem with the Bears whether they keep Fields or pick Williams or Maye is the head coach and the organization itself.

It’s just not a good situation and odds are stacked against whoever the QB is.

Exactly. Da Bears have a long history of cycling quarterbacks with no actual results to show for it. It makes you think the problems lie elsewhere in the organization (i.e. the ownership / GM). 

[GopherRock]

So, what do you do if you are the Bears?

You have Justin Fields, who I think can be great. You also have the #1 overall pick in the draft, with a couple of intriguing QB's at the top.

What say you?

Trade Fields for whatever you can get. He's a passable quarterback, but it's not worth $50 million next year.

The needs in Chicago go way beyond QB.