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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #252 on: September 19, 2023, 05:42:06 PM »
Justin Fields having a really bad start.....and it's not all on the Bears....he's had guys wide open that he's just not even seeing. 
maybe it's not all on da Bears, but da Bears do have a strong track record of ruining QBs
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #253 on: September 19, 2023, 09:29:20 PM »
All of this tracks.  Lions either need to find an elite pass rusher, and just let Hutch be a good pass rusher and elite edge contain, or get stronger up the middle and let him sell out on pass rushing.  They drafted him as the best all around edge, and so far he has been that, but they haven't helped him.  James Houstons injury makes things worse


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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #254 on: September 19, 2023, 11:12:55 PM »
All of this tracks.  Lions either need to find an elite pass rusher, and just let Hutch be a good pass rusher and elite edge contain, or get stronger up the middle and let him sell out on pass rushing.  They drafted him as the best all around edge, and so far he has been that, but they haven't helped him.  James Houstons injury makes things worse


https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1704211341047664662?t=VYhKIeZc_uMaFhxZoeDf9w&s=19
teams these days have multiple guys in the front 7 that you have to account for. Parsons is a freak and the best player in football, but it's just not him in Dallas- that front 7 is nasty AF and deep. Aaron Donald is the best d-tackle I've ever seen and he didn't win a Super Bowl until they got him some more help with Leonard Floyd and Von Miller. Von Miller was at his absolute prime in Denver when he also had guys around him like DeMarcus Ware, Shaq Barrett, Malik Jackson, Bradley Chubb, and Derek Wolfe. The Eagles entire front 7 is a whole ass unit of DUDES. 49ers have always had dudes in the front 7 since day one that Nick Bosa has been there- Arik Armstead, DeForrest Buckner, Dre Greenlaw, Fred Warner. 

Detroit has freaking NOTHING in the front 7 man. It's a gd joke. They are getting absolutely nothing from Charles Harris and Romeo Okwara. Second year players Josh Paschal and James Houston are both on IR. The game has always been won with the front 7 on defense and the OL on offense. Their front 7 is hot garbage. Their best LB is...Alex Anzalone? Get. The. Fk. Out. Their d-tackles are mid. Can't stop the run for shit last year and instead of addressing that in the draft or F/A....they don't. Should've taken Jalen Carter at 6 and Mazi Smith at 18 and built from the inside out. Carter is a fcking ANIMAL and disruptor in the middle and Smith is a 6'3, 339 pound true NG who can occupy two blockers and free up backers and edge rushers. 

They screwed the pooch on the draft. This is a completely different looking defense if you have Jalen Carter and Mazi Smith right next to each other in the middle of that defense with Hutch out at EDGE for the next 10 years. What could've been. If there's one thing you can count on, it's the Lions screwing up a draft somehow. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #255 on: September 20, 2023, 12:27:26 PM »
per PFF through 2 weeks Jalen Carter has....

more pressures than Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett, and Aaron Donald

more QB hurries than Qunentin Williams, Micah Parsons, and TJ Watt

higher pass rush win rate % than Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack

pretty safe to say the Lions FCKED the draft up beyond repair by not just staying put at 6 and taking him. 

yeah, great idea to trade down to 12 and take a 5'8, 185 pound soaking wet RB who can't run between the tackles or pass protect to save his life and oh who also never had a 1,000 yard rush season in 3 years in college. 

Lions gonna Lions.

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #256 on: September 20, 2023, 12:29:55 PM »
Justin Fields having a really bad start.....and it's not all on the Bears....he's had guys wide open that he's just not even seeing. He's taken 10 sacks this year in 2 games, NINE of them after 4 seconds in the pocket. 4 seconds is an ETERNITY in the NFL for a QB in a pocket to find an open guy or throw a ball away.

Doesn't look like my perennial rooting interest Joe Burrow is having a good start either.  That big fat contract he just picked up must be very heavy and weighing him down.  

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #257 on: September 20, 2023, 12:32:48 PM »
Doesn't look like my perennial rooting interest Joe Burrow is having a good start either.  That big fat contract he just picked up must be very heavy and weighing him down. 
Burrow missed a lot of camp/pre-season with injury. he's still injured, not 100%. might explain the rust and mediocre performance through 2 weeks. he's a proven commodity and the 2nd best QB in the NFL behind Mahomes. He'll be fine.

Fields is healthy and struggling, and if he doesn't turn it around before the end of this year they're gonna take a QB and move on from him in this next draft. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #258 on: September 20, 2023, 12:54:13 PM »
yeah, so the Panthers probably should've taken the 6-foot-3 QB with the 1st overall pick and not the 5-foot-9 one...


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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #259 on: September 20, 2023, 12:57:58 PM »
Justin Fields experiment probably not gonna last much longer in Chicago...


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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #260 on: September 20, 2023, 01:37:36 PM »
The Bears are never going to amount to anything so long as the McCaskeys own the team.

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #261 on: September 20, 2023, 03:10:09 PM »
The Bears are never going to amount to anything so long as the McCaskeys own the team.
Da Bears.  You take a kid who was a more accurate passer than Trevor Lawrence and a better runner than Murray- and mess him up.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #262 on: September 20, 2023, 03:17:40 PM »
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-justin-fields-takes-shot-at-coaches-luke-getsy-twitter-reaction/

Based on Twitter reaction- he is getting a lot of support.  

He didn’t look anything like the QB I watched at OSU. A real baller.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #263 on: September 20, 2023, 03:35:25 PM »
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-justin-fields-takes-shot-at-coaches-luke-getsy-twitter-reaction/

Based on Twitter reaction- he is getting a lot of support. 

He didn’t look anything like the QB I watched at OSU. A real baller. 
Oof. This was in one of the Twitter posts below. Talk about an epic takedown of an entire organization...


https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/9/20/23881450/justin-fields-chicago-bears-offense-matt-eberflus

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #264 on: September 20, 2023, 03:48:11 PM »
Oof. This was in one of the Twitter posts below. Talk about an epic takedown of an entire organization...


https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/9/20/23881450/justin-fields-chicago-bears-offense-matt-eberflus



I can remember. His name was Jim McMahon. 
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #265 on: September 20, 2023, 03:57:06 PM »
he's just not processing/reading defenses fast enough/well enough....not every great college QB can translate to the speed of the NFL. have a lot more time to throw the ball and guys are a lot more open in college than the NFL and the defenses are a lot more vanilla.


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