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Topic: 2023 NFL Draft Thread

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Mdot21

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #280 on: April 29, 2023, 11:33:42 AM »
 It's arguable Porter and Washington are 1st round graded players.
well they got Porter at pick #32, which technically....he's a 1st rd pick. There were only 31 picks in the 1st rd bc Dolphins had to surrender their 1st over that whole tampering with Brady saga. 

I agree, both were worthy of 1st rd picks. I'm typically against picking TE's in the 1st rd, but Washington is such a freak show and he adds so much value as a blocker that the upside on a pick in the first from 16-32 is there imo. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #281 on: April 29, 2023, 11:35:52 AM »
I profess near zero ability to predict how any of these guys will do in the League.  I suspect a handful are "can't miss" barring injury.  Some might get a nagging injury and never reach their potential.  Some may be lazy. 
yeah, it's really all just a crap shoot. lot of it has to do with the situations they go into and if they get lucky and avoid injuries. 

For example....I thought Jake Long was headed to the Hall of Fame after the first 3-4 years of his career- then his body wound up falling apart and breaking down and his career fizzled out. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #282 on: April 29, 2023, 12:32:42 PM »
Listening to Fox Sports Radio's coverage of the NFL draft, and of all people, FSR has former Cardinals GM Steve Keim co-hosting the broadcast as their lead draft analyst? Steve Keim who dating all the way back to his days as Cardinals Director of Player personnel neglected the Cardinals OL season after season (who himself once played OL at NC State) and whiffed on wasting how many 1st Rd picks to QBs who ended up busts? Matt Leinart, Josh Rosen, now Kyler Murray?

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #283 on: April 29, 2023, 01:05:18 PM »
don't think it's fair to call Kylar Murray a bust. Not living up to the #1 overall billing? Sure. But he's at least decent with moments of spectacular. Rosen and Leinart? Sure...both huge busts who just couldn't play at the NFL level at all.

btw...your original point still stands....dude was an awful GM lol. But that's all they can get in media....the ones that are terrible and constantly get fired....the good GMs typically stay employed by NFL teams lol. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #284 on: April 29, 2023, 01:37:47 PM »
Steelers are absolutely killing it in this draft.

Trading up to steal Jones away from the Jets was priceless.  And a big F U from Belichick to his divisional rival.

Snagging Porter Jr, Benton, and Washington are all solid picks.  It's arguable Porter and Washington are 1st round graded players.
Just took Nick Herbig from Wisconsin. Him and TJ Watt teamed up is gonna be killer, with Benton taking up guys in front.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #285 on: April 29, 2023, 01:48:23 PM »
I see the Philly Dawgs traded for Deandre Swift

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #286 on: April 29, 2023, 02:37:15 PM »
I see the Philly Dawgs traded for Deandre Swift
Gonna trade Hurts for Stafford, too.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #287 on: April 29, 2023, 02:39:25 PM »
Steelers are absolutely killing it in this draft.

Trading up to steal Jones away from the Jets was priceless.  And a big F U from Belichick to his divisional rival.
So you're not actually into football, just the soap opera narratives made by the talking heads?
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #288 on: April 29, 2023, 03:39:52 PM »
I see the Philly Dawgs traded for Deandre Swift
Swift was a goner once they took Gibbs at #12. Swift is a really good player, he's just made of glass and is never healthy. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #289 on: April 29, 2023, 03:43:41 PM »
sneaky good pick of the draft might be Charlie Jones in the 4th round for the Bengals. Obviously they have their star #1 WR JaMarr Chase and Tee Higgins is an excellent #2. Tyler Boyd is pretty good too. Charlie Jones is a great route runner and basically will be wide open all game long because of the other targets in that offense attracting all the attention. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #290 on: April 29, 2023, 03:48:38 PM »
Seahawks take a pair of Michigan players in the 5th rd, DL Mike Morris and C Olu Oluwatimi. I have no idea why Olu slipped until the 5th rd, maybe bad combine? Regardless, he was a waaaaaaay better football player at Michigan than DJ Turner or Luke Schoonmaker who both went in the 2nd round. I know centers aren't typically drafted high- but I have a feeling he's going to be a really good center in the NFL for a long time and be a much better NFL player than either of his former teammates who went in the 2nd rd. Morris isn't ever going to be a star, but he can be a really good rotational piece in a two deep of an NFL defensive line imo.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #291 on: April 29, 2023, 04:02:11 PM »
every starting DE/EDGE defender since Harbaugh has been at Michigan has now been drafted, thus far. 

2017: Taco Charlton (Rd 1, Pick 28)
2017: Chris Wormley (Rd 3, Pick 74)
2019: Rashan Gary (Rd 1, Pick 12)
2019: Chase Winovich (Rd 3, Pick 77)
2020: Josh Uche (Rd 2, Pick 60)
2021: Kwity Paye (Rd 1, Pick 21)
2022: Aidan Hutchinson (Rd 1, Pick 2)
2022: David Ojabo (Rd 2, Pick 45) - (would've been 1st rd if he didn't tear his achilles at his pro day)
2023: Mike Morris (Rd 5, Pick 151)

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #292 on: April 29, 2023, 04:32:05 PM »
Pats draft kicker and punter in same draft.....first since Raiders in 2000.  Their picks?
K Sebastian Janikowski
P Shane Lechler
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Lechler is the all-time yards per punt average leader.  
Janikowski is interesting - he had the same issue in college and the NFL.  His leg was so big, coaches were willing to let him attempt stupid-long FGs which hurt is overall accuracy %.
But he was a top-10 all-time kicker.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #293 on: April 29, 2023, 04:40:37 PM »
every starting DE/EDGE defender since Harbaugh has been at Michigan has now been drafted, thus far.

2017: Taco Charlton (Rd 1, Pick 28)
2017: Chris Wormley (Rd 3, Pick 74)
2019: Rashan Gary (Rd 1, Pick 12)
2019: Chase Winovich (Rd 3, Pick 77)
2020: Josh Uche (Rd 2, Pick 60)
2021: Kwity Paye (Rd 1, Pick 21)
2022: Aidan Hutchinson (Rd 1, Pick 2)
2022: David Ojabo (Rd 2, Pick 45) - (would've been 1st rd if he didn't tear his achilles at his pro day)
2023: Mike Morris (Rd 5, Pick 151)

Almost as good as the Buckeyes lol. 😳
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