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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #154 on: April 02, 2023, 11:08:59 AM »
He was involved in a drag race that killed a teammate.  While sad, I don't think that's a character issue, as much as being young and stupid.  What does concern me is that he then showed up totally out of shape at pro day.  I legitimately wonder how much his head is in football anymore.  Not that I'd blame him.  Maybe he'll be ok, but he might not.  If the Lions take him at #18, sure.  At #6?  please no

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #155 on: April 02, 2023, 11:10:28 AM »
I suspect he tends to get out of shape quickly if not disciplined by coaches etc.  

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #156 on: April 02, 2023, 11:43:18 AM »
maybe you will when he's selected in the 1st round
ED Zachery wouldn't surprise me,needs more time. Number ones should be plug in and play. Not certain I'd take Smith-Njigba in the 1st.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #157 on: April 02, 2023, 11:56:09 AM »
General consensus forming on Georgia first round draft prospects (on3.com)

They guess Carter at 5 or 7.  I think I'd take Nolan Smith ahead of him though.  I'd take Darnell Washington (TE) at 30 myself also.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #158 on: April 02, 2023, 12:22:22 PM »
I pray to god he free falls to the Lions at 18.
I think God is still pissed at you for telling him to eff off in the Game Thread after the block- six vs Sparty. 🤣 😜not rubbing it in but that was funny
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #159 on: April 02, 2023, 01:09:42 PM »
ED Zachery wouldn't surprise me,needs more time. Number ones should be plug in and play. Not certain I'd take Smith-Njigba in the 1st.
dude JSN is a plug and play receiver and should most definitely go in the 1st rd. Especially with the way the passing game in the NFL is today- his versatility to play any of the WR spots- X,Y,Z at a high level will put him at a premium in the league. He's a freaking 1st rd lock. I would be shocked if he didn't go 1st rd. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #160 on: April 02, 2023, 01:12:45 PM »
General consensus forming on Georgia first round draft prospects (on3.com)

They guess Carter at 5 or 7.  I think I'd take Nolan Smith ahead of him though.  I'd take Darnell Washington (TE) at 30 myself also.
Yeah, I don't think Carter slips out of the top 10. That's why I said by some miracle if he was there at 18. 

I wouldn't touch Nolan Smith in the 1st rd. He didn't produce enough at the college level. His freakish athleticism though can't be ignored. I'd say 2nd rd would be a good spot to take him imo. If he hits- you have an elite player with freakish athleticism. If he doesn't- it's just a 2nd rd pick. 

Washington is a no brainer 1st rd pick. I'd take him at 18 if I was Detroit. And I'm a guy who has roasted the Lions for taking TE's in the 1st rd and someone who thinks you should basically never take a TE in the 1st. Washington is the exception to that rule- and his ability as a blocker is flat out dominant and he can make an already solid OL even better- and he can also be a huge asset in the passing game. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #161 on: April 02, 2023, 01:15:06 PM »
Smith was the de facto QB of the defense, he was a crucial part of it (injured of course later in the year, so his numbers aren't full year).

He is IMHO an elite player.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #162 on: April 02, 2023, 01:16:01 PM »
He was involved in a drag race that killed a teammate.  While sad, I don't think that's a character issue, as much as being young and stupid.  What does concern me is that he then showed up totally out of shape at pro day.  I legitimately wonder how much his head is in football anymore.  Not that I'd blame him.  Maybe he'll be ok, but he might not.  If the Lions take him at #18, sure.  At #6?  please no
that's where I'm at as well. I'm not hating it at #6 overall if they take him- but I'm also not loving it. They have a ton of needs and at #6 my hope is that they'd land as close to a sure thing as there is- knowing full well there are no sure things in the NFL draft. At #18 though- that's a no brainer. Totally worth the value- risk/reward. If he busts and off-field issues get in his way- it's the #18 pick. If he hits like he has the potential to- well you got a top 3 player in the draft at #18 overall. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #163 on: April 02, 2023, 01:43:27 PM »
maybe you will when he's selected in the 1st round
Leaving now is a good way for him to make $4-5 million.
Staying in school and learning how to throw a slant route would be a good way for him to eventually make $40-50 million.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #164 on: April 02, 2023, 01:54:19 PM »
Leaving now is a good way for him to make $4-5 million.
Staying in school and learning how to throw a slant route would be a good way for him to eventually make $40-50 million. 
I'm of the opinion that he can't learn how to do that no matter how long he stays in school. I really tend to think throwing the football accurately is something you're just born with. I think guys can improve upon it- but only to a certain extent. I don't think Richardson will ever be able to throw at a high enough level that is required for the NFL. He's so inaccurate and wild as is- he'd have to make insane amount of improvement that just doesn't seem possible.

He's got insane arm strength but touch, accuracy/ball placement are far more important things to have- and he seems to really lack all those things.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #165 on: April 02, 2023, 02:08:23 PM »
The bottom first round salary was $13 mil

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #166 on: April 02, 2023, 05:03:09 PM »
The bottom first round salary was $13 mil
Wow!  That's crazy.  
Thanks for informing me.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #167 on: April 02, 2023, 05:06:39 PM »
I'm of the opinion that he can't learn how to do that no matter how long he stays in school. I really tend to think throwing the football accurately is something you're just born with. I think guys can improve upon it- but only to a certain extent. I don't think Richardson will ever be able to throw at a high enough level that is required for the NFL. He's so inaccurate and wild as is- he'd have to make insane amount of improvement that just doesn't seem possible.

He's got insane arm strength but touch, accuracy/ball placement are far more important things to have- and he seems to really lack all those things.
If this was the case, then teams would never draft based on potential.  
It's funny, because every article about it says learning improved footwork will help with his accuracy, and that it's fully teachable.
I don't know the ins and outs of QB play, I was a lineman.  


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I think the additional volume of play would benefit him, if nothing else.  Starting 25 games > starting 13, right?






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