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Topic: 2023 NFL Draft Thread

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2023, 07:25:08 AM »
you know, guys like Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Charlie Ward that didn't play a down in the league
Didn't think any of those guys were elite,good maybe serviceable but again surrounded by talent that made their play appear stellar
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2023, 07:46:42 AM »
If VY was the best college player you ever saw and his NFL career was like 5 years, with more INTs than TDs, then isn't that exactly what he's asking for here?
He made two pro bowls. He was offensive rookie of the year. So, no.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2023, 08:11:32 AM »
Brian Bosworth.


Discuss.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2023, 09:12:50 AM »
the Bos didn't suck in the league

like Mandrich
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2023, 09:43:20 AM »
Maybe it's an impossible job to do any better than is done now.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2023, 09:58:54 AM »
the Bos didn't suck in the league

like Mandrich
I'll never forget when he was flattened by Bo Jackson.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2023, 10:00:33 AM »
Bo flattened a few good men
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2023, 05:38:57 PM »
He made two pro bowls. He was offensive rookie of the year. So, no.
You draft a QB 3rd overall, and you're happy with 60 career games played and more INTs than TDs. 
While a QB drafted 11th wound up with 4.5x the yards and 5x the passing TDs...you're content?
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But hell, Heisman-winner Matt Leinart was worse.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #78 on: March 10, 2023, 07:06:54 AM »
He made two pro bowls. He was offensive rookie of the year. So, no.
You can be disappointed he didn't last longer, but he evidently played well for a couple of years, so not a "near bust" in my mind.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #79 on: March 10, 2023, 07:17:26 AM »
Yup I just don't remember him getting to the Pro Bowl twice so not a wash out
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #80 on: March 10, 2023, 07:19:10 AM »
You draft a QB 3rd overall, and you're happy with 60 career games played and more INTs than TDs. 
While a QB drafted 11th wound up with 4.5x the yards and 5x the passing TDs...you're content?
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But hell, Heisman-winner Matt Leinart was worse. 
If he didn't get his head all f'd up he could have been a great one. He proved that in two seasons.

Content? No. But it's not like he's Ryan Leaf here.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #81 on: March 10, 2023, 07:28:23 AM »
I'm thinking of players who excelled in college and hardly played a down in the NFL, or player very poorly to the point they washed out in a year, maybe two, not a player who ever made the Pro Bowl.  Some players have a couple really good years and then fade, it can be injury, poor coaching, or simply they got spoiled and didn't work at it.


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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #82 on: March 10, 2023, 11:10:31 AM »
Mandarich  Recruited to Michigan State University by defensive back coach Nick Saban, Mandarich played in the 1988 Rose Bowl and was named a First-team All-American, an Outland Award finalist and a two-time Big Ten Lineman of the Year. Upon his entry into the 1989 NFL Draft, both scouts and media (most notably Sports Illustrated, which did a cover story on him, nicknaming him "The Incredible Bulk" began trumpeting Mandarich as the best offensive line prospect ever, touting his "measurables." "He weighed 330, ran the 40 [yard dash] in 4.65 seconds, did a standing long jump of 10'3", leaped vertically 30" and bench-pressed 225 pounds an unheard-of 39 times". He appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated twice 

Going into the 1989 draft, Mandarich was considered one of the best prospects for an offensive lineman ever and a top-five pick. Mandarich was selected second overall by the Green Bay Packers.

Drafted as an offensive tackle, Mandarich never lived up to the stellar expectations set for him. After a lengthy holdout, which was not settled until the week before the regular-season kickoff, he spent most of his first year on the special-teams unit.  After three seasons of lackluster performance on a four-year contract, Mandarich was cut in 1992 by the Packers . Mandarich is often referred to as one of the top 5 bust NFL draft picks of all time, having been drafted ahead of such future NFL stars as Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, Deion Sanders, Steve Atwater, Eric Metcalf, and Andre Rison. The September 28, 1992, cover of Sports Illustrated featuring Mandarich labelled him "The NFL's Incredible Bust".



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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #83 on: March 11, 2023, 12:35:11 AM »
I'm thinking of players who excelled in college and hardly played a down in the NFL, or player very poorly to the point they washed out in a year, maybe two, not a player who ever made the Pro Bowl.  Some players have a couple really good years and then fade, it can be injury, poor coaching, or simply they got spoiled and didn't work at it.
Gordie Lockbaum 

Major Harris

Tony Rice

Trent Richardson

Now that NFL has gone RPO/college offense, Harris and maybe Rice as well might have gotten a chance in 2023

 

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