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Topic: ~2024 MLB Thread~

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #140 on: May 16, 2023, 12:39:41 AM »
When AI falls in line with the masses. 

AI is just a product of the masses

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #141 on: May 16, 2023, 12:49:30 AM »
I've always kind of liked the JAWS rating, which averages your career WAR, with your 7 year peak WAR.  It rewards longevity, but not as much as pure career WAR, because it demands you be great at your peak, without making that peak too short.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_C.shtml

Sort of confirms what most anyone would say, that Bench and Carter are 1-2.  Piazza with a strong case for #3.  His peak was better than anyone but those guys.  He just falls behind Pudge and Fisk because he didn't play nearly as long.

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #142 on: May 17, 2023, 12:29:55 PM »
I can't fathom the math that gets a team with a shit payroll to buy land on the Las Vegas strip AND building a stadium. 

And what are the hopes for fan attendance once/if the Athletics find themselves in Vegas?

For a guess look at the Diamondbacks latest homestand.

Weekend numbers look up, about 25k Vs the Nationals and Giants. Then on weeknights in Phoenix, attendance Vs the Marlins drops down to about 10k. I can see the weekend bringing in big numbers of visiting fans to Vegas before the weeknight numbers plunge without built-in hometown support.

As for the Athletics existing numbers, look at the horrific figures for Oakland's last two homegames (Vs the Diamondbacks). 2k & 3K are like high school numbers.


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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #143 on: May 17, 2023, 12:38:58 PM »
The problem with Oakland is that they also wanted enough land to build their own entertainment complex, and control the surrounding shops, restaurants and bars.

I'm assuming they got this here, so maybe the terrible attendance doesn't matter if they got public funding to run up their own bars, restaurants (and in this case casinos?) around the park

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #144 on: May 18, 2023, 05:43:15 AM »
The "secret" to having your team come from behind is apparently to give up and go to bed.

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« Reply #145 on: May 18, 2023, 09:25:51 AM »
The "secret" to having your team come from behind is apparently to give up and go to bed.
Last night the Cubs were ahead of the Astros 6 to 1 after 7 innings only to have the Astros score 6 runs in the last  2 innings and win the game 7 to 6

Yes I stopped watching after inning 6 but thats why I record the games. 
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« Reply #146 on: May 18, 2023, 01:29:16 PM »
AI is just a product of the masses
If that's true, then it isn't very I.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #147 on: May 18, 2023, 01:31:12 PM »
Yeah, the A's attendance the other night was lower than 11 of 13 AAA games.  
That's what you get when you pull a U-haul out front.
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #148 on: May 18, 2023, 02:10:09 PM »
When and why did OPS become a thing?

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2023, 02:17:25 PM »
AI is just a product of the masses
Garbage in, garbage out.

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« Reply #150 on: May 18, 2023, 07:09:14 PM »
AI is supposed to evolve that garbage into something amazing, though.  Otherwise, you're just describing one of those giant computers from the 70s predicting things incorrectly.
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« Reply #151 on: May 18, 2023, 07:11:29 PM »
When and why did OPS become a thing?
Like 20 years ago.....because getting on base is the best thing a batter can do and hitting for power is the 2nd-best thing he can do.  
You'll be pleased to know OBP is about 3x more "important" than SLG, so a more accurate evaluation of a player's offensive worth would be (3*O)PS.  But no one uses that.
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OPS+ is even better, as it takes into account context.
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« Reply #152 on: May 18, 2023, 07:11:55 PM »
btw, the Dodgers have "oopsied" into the best record in the NL.  
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #153 on: May 19, 2023, 09:29:28 AM »

 

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