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Topic: 2023 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #196 on: February 06, 2023, 03:06:52 PM »
I caught part of a discussion by two Michigan fans about whether they would have given the Dawgs a better game (I think the answer is quite obvious barring some historic meltdown by UM).  They were shaking their heads a lot about the loss to TCU.  They agreed UM might lose to UGA by say 2 TDs, which I thought was pretty charitable of them, but "we" tend to be overly influenced by the last game.  And they talked about matchups vis a vis OSU and whether OSU is geared to play SEC teams better than Big Ten teams, which I thought interesting, though I don't quite agree.


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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #197 on: February 28, 2023, 04:50:46 PM »
the hype machine from both the coaches and the "insiders" on the early spring returns on the position switch of Amorion Walker from WR to CB has been off the charts. Harbaugh even went so far as to say he considers Walker the starter at CB opposite Will Johnson.

Will Johnson had an amazing true frosh season and is a young superstar CB and future high 1st rd pick. He's only going to be better this year. Mike Sainistril is about as good as it gets at nickel and was brand new to the position last year. He's only going to be better this year. Rod Moore is a really good free safety. If this Amorion Walker hype even approaches reality Michigan's secondary is going to be filthy in '23. Walker is 6'3+, 190ish and the fastest guy on the team, allegedly. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #198 on: February 28, 2023, 05:05:48 PM »
the Buckeyes are doomed
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #199 on: February 28, 2023, 06:48:14 PM »
   
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #200 on: March 03, 2023, 06:51:30 PM »
this is pretty neat and Michigan related...Rakim Jarrett, star Maryland WR, future NFL draft pick, and former OMERG 5 STAR 'croot says that Michigan true frosh CB Will Johnson was the best CB he faced all season in 2022. 


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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #201 on: March 27, 2023, 02:36:03 PM »
LB Junior Colson and CB Will Johnson both have missed extended time in spring ball dealing with injuries. Both are said to be minor, won’t cause them to miss fall camp or the season. 

Not great however for their continued development. Both were first time starters last year, Colson a true soph last year and Johnson a true frosh. Both could’ve used this spring to level up, and both have been very limited. 

Colson was their best LB and Johnson their best CB in 2022. Colson was a 247composite top 100 player and Johnson a 247composite 5*. Sometimes them ‘crootin stars are accurate….

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #202 on: April 01, 2023, 08:22:02 PM »
spring game hot takes....

Michigan was missing a lot of key players who sat out, but they look pretty loaded and athletic on defense.

S/NB Zeke Berry, CB Ja'Den McBurrows, CB Jyaire Hill, CB Myles Pollard- all first or second year players- really flashed at moments and look like some real life 'ball players. One who didn't....Amorion Walker...who played WR as a true frosh last year but was switched to CB this spring. Harbaugh and staff and the other players were hyping Walker up...but he failed to show any signs of that hype. The other aforementioned DBs were far more impressive. The safeties are set with Rod Moore, Paige & Moten. Nickel is set with Mike Sainistril. CB1 is set with Will Johnson. CB 2 looking like it'll be a battle between McBurrows and Hill imo. Zeke Berry looks like the backup at nickel. If it was up to me- I'd roll with the true frosh Jyaire Hill. Early enrollee who just looked way better to me than any 18 year true frosh that should technically still be in HS has any business being. 

TE's looked pretty, pretty, pretty good. Colston Loveland, AJ Barner, and Matthew Hibner all flashed. They have 3 guys who look like legit high quality TE's. Loveland by the way looks like he could become the best TE that Michigan has ever had. That dude looks legit....excited to see what he does in '23. He probably has the best NFL draft potential of any TE they've had since Jake Butt. Heard Jake Butt even say he thinks Loveland will be the best TE to ever play at Michigan when it's all said and done. 

Alex Orji almost has to be your backup QB. No offense to Jack Tuttle or Davis Warren, but they both seem to really lack size and physical ability. Orji looks like a damn thoroughbred compared to them. He's just bigger, stronger, faster, has a more RPM in his arm strength than either guy. Not sure he's ready for prime time, but he looks the part of college QB...the other dudes...not so much.

DT Kenneth Grant, EDGE Josiah Stewart, EDGE Derrick Moore, and EDGE Keachaun Bennett all really popped and flashed in that spring game. Grant is a massive human being who has no businesses being as quick as he is. He was wreaking havoc and collapsing the pocket pretty much every snap he was in. Stewart's speed off the edge was eye opening and he was disrupting the QBs every snap he was in. What a steal in the transfer portal. Moore looks like he's taken another step from his true frosh year last year- can definitely see why dude played as a frosh and was a top 50 national 'croot and won MVP of that UnderArmour HS All-Star game- he's going to be big-time when he hits. Thing is- they are so deep at EDGE he might not even start. Bennett was a surprise breakout player on defense...did not expect him to make as big a jump as it looks like he has. 

LBs looked pretty solid. The transfer Hausmann from Nebraska looked the best to my eye test. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he starts at ILB next to Junior Colson. They are deep at the position, with 2021 starter Nikahi Hill Green finally back from injury, '22 starter Michael Barrett coming back for his 6th year. Just to my eye, Hausmann moves and hits at a different gear than Green or Barrett. He looks freakishly twitch and quick. 

OL should be good. RBs should be good. Speaking of RBs, the early enrollee true frosh "lowly 3*" from Georgia- Benjamin Hall looked fantastic. I'd say he's put himself into position to be leader in the club house for RB3. CJ Stokes missed spring with injury and his true frosh year he went into the dog house with fumblitis issues. Mike Hart targeted Hall early on and pushed for his commitment- and was being lambasted on the internets for 'crootin only lowly 3*'s....same people who fail to remember Hart was a lowly 3* himself. Maybe...just maybe Mike Hart knows a thing or two about playing RB? 

Only real glaring weakness I see on this team imo is QB depth and who the hell will be WR1? Would've been really nice to have Cade back as the backup- he's more suited for that role- despite his delusions of grandeur. No real clear cut #1 WR. Also...would've been amazing to have Mazi Smith back and pair him up with a Kenneth Grant who looks ready for prime time. Hey, can't have everything though...

This is the best, most talented team he's had on paper since Jeem has been in Ann Arbor imo. Schedule is favorable and once again the NON-CON is a joke. 11-0 heading into the final showdown in Ann Arbor vs the Buckeyes is possible if they can stay healthy and get a little bit of luck here and there...

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #203 on: April 03, 2023, 02:35:56 PM »
Michigan OC Sherone Moore and DC Jesse Minter both sign 3 year contract extensions with big pay raises. Michigan strength coach Ben Herbert signs a 5 year extension and becomes first Michigan strength coach ever to make $1+ mil a year.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #204 on: April 03, 2023, 02:49:44 PM »
Ben Herbert has been huge for Michigan. Probably the best hire booger has made there.

I'd argue he was the biggest loss when Bert took the Arky job. With only a couple of exceptions, UW hasn't had the badass maulers like they did when Herbert was the strength coach. All of the linemen were badass when he was there.
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #205 on: April 03, 2023, 02:51:17 PM »
Michigan OC Sherone Moore and DC Jesse Minter both sign 3 year contract extensions with big pay raises. Michigan strength coach Ben Herbert signs a 5 year extension and becomes first Michigan strength coach ever to make $1+ mil a year.
Damn, think of all the chocolate milk you can buy with that!

Moore is certainly worth it.  I think he is close to being in a spot where he's going to be a ble to skip ahead and take the P5 job of his choosing.  I think more high end coordinators should do that.  Narduzzi could have left a few years earlier, and gotten an AAC or MAC job.  But he stuck around, continued to prove it, and landed at Pitt.  The way coordinators are paid now, why not stick around, and skip over the mid-major or bottom tier P5 jobs?  Hell, Dan Lanning went straight to Oregon.  He's an Oklahoma alum. If Brent Venables continues on his current path, whose to say he isn't the freakin Oklahoma head coach in 2025?

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #206 on: April 03, 2023, 03:01:04 PM »
Damn, think of all the chocolate milk you can buy with that!

Moore is certainly worth it.  I think he is close to being in a spot where he's going to be a ble to skip ahead and take the P5 job of his choosing.  I think more high end coordinators should do that.  Narduzzi could have left a few years earlier, and gotten an AAC or MAC job.  But he stuck around, continued to prove it, and landed at Pitt.  The way coordinators are paid now, why not stick around, and skip over the mid-major or bottom tier P5 jobs?  Hell, Dan Lanning went straight to Oregon.  He's an Oklahoma alum. If Brent Venables continues on his current path, whose to say he isn't the freakin Oklahoma head coach in 2025?
good point. Moore is also putting himself into position to take over when Harbaugh runs his course- like David Shaw did at Stanford. Moore is the next head coach if he's still here if Harbaugh leaves in 2-3 years imo. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #207 on: April 05, 2023, 06:20:01 PM »
PFF lists Michigan CB Will Johnson as a top 10 pick in the upcoming 2023 NFL Draft if every college player was eligible regardless of class...been saying since last season when he was an 18 year old true freshman that physically he just looks like an NFL CB already....he's going to dominate this year. Mikey Sainistril at nickel and Will at CB1 and Rod Moore at FS is going to be a filthy little trio in that defensive backfield. Have to find a CB2 emerge.


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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #208 on: April 05, 2023, 09:55:38 PM »
So he should probably sit the season out

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #209 on: April 05, 2023, 10:04:02 PM »
So he should probably sit the season out
he’s only going into his true soph year. if he were to have a dominant soph season- man have to say I would hate for him to sit out- but would never hold it against someone. 

Like look at Marv at OSU. Dude is a top 5 draft pick whether he plays his jr year or not. 

 

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