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Topic: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness

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Mdot21

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #560 on: January 09, 2024, 11:48:59 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on January 09, 2024, 11:36:55 AM
May not have the line next season so no chance to have time to do so.Stock will never be higher ask Cardale,absolutely on a 3 game tear throwing darts. Promised his old coach in Cleveland he'd come back and did. Prolly cost him some coin though
they'll have to rebuild the OL a little bit, but they've shown the last 3 years they've been able to do that. The DL will still be stacked. Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, and Rayshaun Benny all return on the interior. All 4 of their EDGE rushers have eligibility remaining- with Derrick Moore having to return because he's only a sophomore. Stewart and McGregor are both likely to return imo. Harrell has been a 3 year starter, and might go NFL. And their best player on defense returns as well in CB Will Johnson. Losing Mikey Sainistril is really going to hurt however- he's just a big-time play maker and leader. 

The key for them will be keeping Jesse Minter on at DC and convincing JJ & Donovan Edwards to come back. 
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #561 on: January 09, 2024, 12:00:13 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on January 09, 2024, 11:33:59 AM
agree 100%. he has the height (6'3ish), plus athleticism for the position, and a really good arm- but he ain't ready for the NFL. He has the raw tools necessary, but needs the polish. He needs to put on some more bulk (at least 10ish pounds) and he needs to learn how to read defenses and process better.
I'd go the opposite way. 

I'm not sure that a Harbaugh offense is going to be the right place for him to develop, and the downside if he ends up becoming a higher draft pick is that a team that drafts him will expect him to start right away and expose his lack of development. 

I'd strike while the iron is hot and he can show out well in the combine and display his arm to scouts, get himself drafted by a team with an aging starter who needs a "QB of the future", and develop as the backup while cashing NFL checks. 

With his height and arm, he's gonna get drafted decently high, but it might be better for his future to get drafted by a team that actually has a plan to develop him rather than a team that needs him immediately. 
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #562 on: January 09, 2024, 12:05:58 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 09, 2024, 12:00:13 PM
I'd go the opposite way.

I'm not sure that a Harbaugh offense is going to be the right place for him to develop, and the downside if he ends up becoming a higher draft pick is that a team that drafts him will expect him to start right away and expose his lack of development.

I'd strike while the iron is hot and he can show out well in the combine and display his arm to scouts, get himself drafted by a team with an aging starter who needs a "QB of the future", and develop as the backup while cashing NFL checks.

With his height and arm, he's gonna get drafted decently high, but it might be better for his future to get drafted by a team that actually has a plan to develop him rather than a team that needs him immediately.
Completely agree with the second part if he does go into the league.. He needs a team to draft him that aren't looking for immediate start.

That being said, I think he should stay because he needs to grow in reading defenses, needs his body to age a little to add a little more size and this is honestly a competitive draft class at QB. 2025 look thin imo, so I think a year further developing and less competition moves him further up. 
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #563 on: January 09, 2024, 01:16:07 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #564 on: January 09, 2024, 01:35:17 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #565 on: January 09, 2024, 01:49:39 PM »
Pot-stirrer.  
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #566 on: January 09, 2024, 01:52:55 PM »
Speaking of stirring pots, lemme lob a final grenade on the place before I disappear for the off-season.

Ohio State fans.....sorry, there's not going to be any asterisks or vacated wins.  
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #567 on: January 09, 2024, 02:26:29 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on January 09, 2024, 01:52:55 PM
Speaking of stirring pots, lemme lob a final grenade on the place before I disappear for the off-season.

Ohio State fans.....sorry, there's not going to be any asterisks or vacated wins. 
Dude, why are you harshing on their mellow?
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #568 on: January 09, 2024, 02:41:28 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #569 on: January 09, 2024, 08:58:31 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on January 09, 2024, 07:52:50 AM
I went to bed after the pick, but great job Michigan bringing the title back up north. Kind of cool how the 4 team playoffs began and ended in much the same way with OSU and Michigan.
Both times creating a lot of hullaballoo for something that we could have settled with a simple Rose Bowl
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #570 on: January 09, 2024, 09:41:45 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 09, 2024, 01:16:07 PM
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #571 on: January 09, 2024, 09:54:13 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #572 on: January 10, 2024, 11:00:50 AM »

Quote from: SuperMario on January 09, 2024, 12:05:58 PM
Completely agree with the second part if he does go into the league.. He needs a team to draft him that aren't looking for immediate start.

That being said, I think he should stay because he needs to grow in reading defenses, needs his body to age a little to add a little more size and this is honestly a competitive draft class at QB. 2025 look thin imo, so I think a year further developing and less competition moves him further up.
ESPN put out their first post season mock today and have him #12 to Denver.

In theory, I agree, but in a capped league, where just a decent starting QB is going to eat up a ton of your cap, you really can't afford to draft a QB to sit him.  All that does is waste one of his cheap years.  Any Round 1 guy is going to be expected to start Day 1.
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #573 on: January 10, 2024, 11:24:15 AM »
Quote from: ELA on January 10, 2024, 11:00:50 AM
ESPN put out their first post season mock today and have him #12 to Denver.

In theory, I agree, but in a capped league, where just a decent starting QB is going to eat up a ton of your cap, you really can't afford to draft a QB to sit him.  All that does is waste one of his cheap years.  Any Round 1 guy is going to be expected to start Day 1.
I don’t see JJ as a round 1 QB. I’d take a flier on him in the 2nd for sure though.

He has the obvious raw physical tools, very athletic for the position, live arm, legit 6’3ish. But he’s still too slight- he needs to hit the gym and bulk up- and he’s way too god damn inconsistent and needs to improve reading defenses, decision making/processing, pocket presence, foot work, etc.. 

If JJ can put on 10-15 pounds of muscle and improve all the parts of his game he’s deficient in- he’d have a real shot to vault to #1 overall territory. 
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