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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #882 on: January 20, 2024, 01:34:05 PM »
I know medina has thought about how to do a tournament with 18, that includes all teams.  How about this

Make sure the regular season ends on Saturday.

Top 6 teams advance to Chicago/Indy

Then Monday-Wednesday you have two separate 6 team tournaments, hosted by the #7 and #8 teams.
#7 tournament: #7 and #10 gets byes, #11 vs. #18, #14 vs. #15
#8 tournament: #8 and #9 get byes, #12 vs. #17, #13 vs. #16

Then the two winners jump in as the #7 and #8 seeds in the 8 team BTT in Chicago/Indy, starting on Friday

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #883 on: January 20, 2024, 01:40:35 PM »
I know medina has thought about how to do a tournament with 18, that includes all teams.  How about this

Make sure the regular season ends on Saturday.

Top 6 teams advance to Chicago/Indy

Then Monday-Wednesday you have two separate 6 team tournaments, hosted by the #7 and #8 teams.
#7 tournament: #7 and #10 gets byes, #11 vs. #18, #14 vs. #15
#8 tournament: #8 and #9 get byes, #12 vs. #17, #13 vs. #16

Then the two winners jump in as the #7 and #8 seeds in the 8 team BTT in Chicago/Indy, starting on Friday
So, using his projections, but slotting in the Pac 12 teams, based on Ken Pom...

  • Wisconsin
  • Purdue
  • Illinois
  • Michigan State
  • Iowa
  • Nebraska

Those teams advance to the weekend, joined by the #7 and #8 seeds, based on the winners of the two campus tourneys

  • EUGENE REGION
  • #14 Penn State vs. #15 Ohio State; winner vs. #7 Oregon
  • #11 Maryland vs. #18 UCLA; winner vs. #10 Minnesota

  • EVANSTON REGION
  • #12 USC vs. #17 Michigan; winner vs. #8 Northwestern
  • #13 Rutgers vs. #16 Indiana; winner vs. #9 Washington


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #884 on: January 20, 2024, 01:54:29 PM »
Chicago and Indy?

We all know they will have a tournament in SoFi, just liked they forced MSG and DC on us. Target Center this year. I hear Minnie is awesome in March.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #885 on: January 20, 2024, 02:32:54 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #886 on: January 20, 2024, 02:41:37 PM »
So, using his projections, but slotting in the Pac 12 teams, based on Ken Pom...

  • Wisconsin
  • Purdue
  • Illinois
  • Michigan State
  • Iowa
  • Nebraska

Those teams advance to the weekend, joined by the #7 and #8 seeds, based on the winners of the two campus tourneys

  • EUGENE REGION
  • #14 Penn State vs. #15 Ohio State; winner vs. #7 Oregon
  • #11 Maryland vs. #18 UCLA; winner vs. #10 Minnesota

  • EVANSTON REGION
  • #12 USC vs. #17 Michigan; winner vs. #8 Northwestern
  • #13 Rutgers vs. #16 Indiana; winner vs. #9 Washington
This would work out particularly well if the hosts were from different time zones, especially if they were as divergent as possible. Using this as the example:
Monday:
  • 4pm EST, 3 locally: USC vs M in Evanston
  • 6:30 EST, 5:30 locally: RU vs IU in Evanston
  • 8:30 pm EST, 5:30pm locally: PSU vs tOSU in Eugene
  • 11pm EST, 8pm locally: UMD vs UCLA in Eugene
Tuesday:
  • 4pm USC/M vs NU
  • 630 RU/IU vs Washington
  • 830 PSU/tOSU vs Oregon
  • 11 UMD/UCLA vs Minnesota
Wednesday:
  • 6:30pm EST, 5:30 locally: USC/M/NU vs RU/IU/UW in Evanston
  • 8:30pm EST, 5:30 locally: PSU/tOSU/OR vs UMD/UCLA/MN in Eugene
Thursday travel day.


Friday-Sunday: Eight-team BTT.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #887 on: January 20, 2024, 10:07:56 PM »
Ohio State managed to win a January game today . . . But it was a home game against Penn State so don't get too excited. That said, Ohio State pretty thoroughly dominated the game and led from start to finish.

The Buckeyes are now 13-5/3-4 and on the bubble according to most projected brackets. In order to make the dance they will need to improve substantially.  They are Tier-3 because they are 0-4 in games that a Tier-2 team should win and a Tier-3 team should lose (@PSU, @IU, vsUW, @M). Here are the rest of their games followed by the Tier-3 projection and projected cumulative record then what the projection would be for a Tier-2 team and the projected cumulative record that way:

  • At Nebraska, L 13-6/3-5, L 13-6/3-5
  • At Northwestern, L 13-7/3-6, L 13-7/3-6
  • Vs Illinois, L 13-8/3-7, W 14-7/4-6
  • At Iowa, L 13-9/3-8, L 14-8/4-7
  • Vs Indiana,  W 14-9/4-8, W 15-8/5-7
  • Vs Maryland, W 15-9/5-8, W 16-8/6-7
  • At Wisconsin, L 15-10/5-9, L 16-9/6-8
  • Vs Purdue, L 15-11/5-10, W 17-9/7-8
  • At Minnesota, L 15-12/5-11, L 17-10/7-9
  • At Michigan State, L 15-13/5-12, L 17-11/7-10
  • Vs Nebraska, W 16-13/6-12, W 18-11/8-10
  • Vs Michigan, W 17-13/7-12, W 19-11/9-10
  • At Rutgers, L 17-14/7-13, L 19-12/10-10

Bottom line:
If the Buckeyes continue to perform like a Tier-3 B1G team they will miss the Tournament. At 17-14/7-13:they would likely start on Wednesday and even a run all the way to the CG would only get them to 21-15.

If the Buckeyes improve and perform at a Tier-2 level from here out they'll hit the BTT on the bubble at 19-12/10-10. They'll need to AT LEAST win their Thursday BTT opener and an additional win in the quarter-final on Friday would probably lock down a tournament berth.

What they really need is to perform like a Tier-1 team the rest of the way (don't laugh, they have Tier-1 talent the problemi is Tier-5 coaching). That would switch the following losses to wins:
  • At Iowa (I'm preemptively assuming that we are moving Iowa down)
  • At Minnesota
  • At Rutgers
That would take them to 22-9/13-7 and they'd be a lock.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2024, 10:37:10 PM by medinabuckeye1 »

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #888 on: January 21, 2024, 11:46:51 AM »
In Kenpom Purdue is up to 13th now on Defense. Getting really close to Alabama for #1 on offense.

He has us winning the B10 at 16-4 now with Wisconsin at 14-6. Winning today improved our expected finish by a game. Iowa was our 3rd toughest game remaining behind @Wisconsin and [color=var(--primary-color,#185886)]@Illinois[/color].

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #889 on: January 21, 2024, 02:16:48 PM »
MSU would be so good if we could just tie teams coming out of the half.  Been a consistent problem all year

Today got way more stressful than it should have

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #890 on: January 21, 2024, 03:37:21 PM »
Some rando trying to film herself storming the court ran over Caitlin Clark. Really what are the odds.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #891 on: January 21, 2024, 03:43:42 PM »
Matt Painter warned about this

Caitlin had a rough day
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #892 on: January 21, 2024, 04:06:32 PM »
Matt Painter warned about this

Caitlin had a rough day
I would suspect the conference will take some sort of action moving forward.  

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #893 on: January 21, 2024, 04:44:17 PM »


She clearly tried to shove the fan with both hands. 


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #894 on: January 21, 2024, 04:55:10 PM »
needs to keep her head on a swivel
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #895 on: January 21, 2024, 05:06:11 PM »
I would suspect the conference will take some sort of action moving forward. 
People had fun at a game. Someone had better stop such nonsense.

 

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