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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2023, 07:11:22 PM »
hope it helps the big dance performance by the conference
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2023, 09:26:10 PM »
Carr is the best athlete to enter MSU in a while.  He plays at a high school that plays elite competition, but I'm concerned that every video of him is some insane breakaway dunk.  That's all well and good, but (a) you aren't going to get those plays in the Big Ten; and (b) if you do, putting on a show is worth the same number of points as a layup.

This MSU class, ranked #3, is curious. Xavier Booker is the highest rated player.  At one point he was #1.  That never made sense.  But even at #10ish, I think he's overrated.  A decade ago?  Sure.  But he's kind of a tweener 4, without range.  Not sure how he fits now.  Then you have Carr, who, as said above, I have my concerns about.  I think BY FAR, the best player in this class is Jeremy Fears.  He is a tailor made Izzo PG, with a super high pedigree.  He was one of the last kids picked to the McD AA game, but he's ranked generally in the 30s or 40s.  I think he is an instant impact player, who can play behind Hoggard next year, then star the following year, then he's probably gone.  I was actually a little surprised to see Tre Holloway return, because it feels like he is the clear #3 PG again next year.  Fears is the #2 next year, and its his team in 2025.  Then he's likely gone.  That's a bold pick to call a kid in the 40s a 2 year player, but I think he's (a) underrated and (b) a perfect fit in this system, and will thrive.  Even though he's the 3rd highest rated kid in this class, I think he'll be the best MSU player.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2023, 06:41:25 PM »
hope it helps the big dance performance by the conference
well it can't hurt, we set the bar pretty low this year to beat.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2023, 01:11:50 PM »
Seems like a short turn around. We were just there in 2019.  And the 2020 and 2021 versions were fake.  There has only been one tournament on Maui since MSU was last there


https://twitter.com/MSU_Basketball/status/1643288337162309632?t=yeBL6umORU62kQt5vlI02w&s=19

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2023, 01:15:00 PM »
Seems like a short turn around. We were just there in 2019.  And the 2020 and 2021 versions were fake.  There has only been one tournament on Maui since MSU was last there


https://twitter.com/MSU_Basketball/status/1643288337162309632?t=yeBL6umORU62kQt5vlI02w&s=19

Never mind, realized this is 2024

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2023, 01:38:16 PM »
nothing wrong with a trip to Maui
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2023, 04:38:15 PM »
Tyler Wahl coming back to the Badgers. This season is far from a banner campaign, but he is a player you would rather have than not. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2023, 04:38:54 PM »
2023 Maui field is loaded as well:

 GonzagaKansasMarquettePurdueSyracuseTennesseeUCLA and Chaminade will meet Nov. 20-22, 2023

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2023, 08:29:04 PM »
2023 Maui field is loaded as well:

 Gonzaga, Kansas, Marquette, Purdue, Syracuse, Tennessee, UCLA and Chaminade will meet Nov. 20-22, 2023
That's definitely a deeper field overall, but Chaminade preventing any team from going 0-3.

Nice to see Maui coming back, after Atlantis seemed to pass it for a couple years there.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #65 on: April 05, 2023, 07:54:54 AM »
Carr is the best athlete to enter MSU in a while.  He plays at a high school that plays elite competition, but I'm concerned that every video of him is some insane breakaway dunk.  That's all well and good, but (a) you aren't going to get those plays in the Big Ten; and (b) if you do, putting on a show is worth the same number of points as a layup.

This MSU class, ranked #3, is curious. Xavier Booker is the highest rated player.  At one point he was #1.  That never made sense.  But even at #10ish, I think he's overrated.  A decade ago?  Sure.  But he's kind of a tweener 4, without range.  Not sure how he fits now.  Then you have Carr, who, as said above, I have my concerns about.  I think BY FAR, the best player in this class is Jeremy Fears.  He is a tailor made Izzo PG, with a super high pedigree.  He was one of the last kids picked to the McD AA game, but he's ranked generally in the 30s or 40s.  I think he is an instant impact player, who can play behind Hoggard next year, then star the following year, then he's probably gone.  I was actually a little surprised to see Tre Holloway return, because it feels like he is the clear #3 PG again next year.  Fears is the #2 next year, and its his team in 2025.  Then he's likely gone.  That's a bold pick to call a kid in the 40s a 2 year player, but I think he's (a) underrated and (b) a perfect fit in this system, and will thrive.  Even though he's the 3rd highest rated kid in this class, I think he'll be the best MSU player.

Strong agreement here on Booker. I've seen him in person several times and on TV. He's skilled but does not handle physicality well. Not a good formula for a big in the Big Ten. My son is 6'5" and was a very good player at a 1A (smallest class) high school in Indiana. He played Booker in a fall league game last year and held him to 2 points just by being physical with him. When he got physical with Booker, Booker stopped trying to post up and just hung around the three-point line, where he was obviously not very successful. I've consistently seen the same thing with Booker regardless of the competition. He thrives in AAU and camp situations where defense and physicality aren't emphasized. That combined with his skill level and potential is why he's so highly ranked. It will be interesting to see how Izzo handles him and if he can toughen up a bit. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #66 on: April 05, 2023, 08:22:00 AM »
Tyler Wahl coming back to the Badgers. This season is far from a banner campaign, but he is a player you would rather have than not.
I agree. Now let's see what kind of transfers Gard can muster. 


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2023, 12:26:51 PM »
Kyle Filipowski surprisingly announced he's returning to Duke for his sophomore season, and their top recruit immediately asked out of his LOI.

Do these guys not understand the Brotherhood?

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2023, 02:08:26 PM »
Kyle Filipowski surprisingly announced he's returning to Duke for his sophomore season, and their top recruit immediately asked out of his LOI.

Do these guys not understand the Brotherhood?
Yeah they do, “Brother, get outta my way. I need some minutes.”

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #69 on: April 11, 2023, 02:38:47 PM »
Yeah they do, “Brother, get outta my way. I need some minutes.”
Someone pointed out that when JJ Redick and Zion were both on the Pelicans, there's no way they realized they both went to Duke.  There might be no school where calling it the Brotherhood is more laughable.  The Hired Guns?  Sure

 

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