header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

 (Read 68995 times)

betarhoalphadelta

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 12222
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2212 on: April 09, 2024, 05:27:26 PM »
Maybe the networks need to reconsider when and what time they show the men's NCAA Final Four and Final games.

https://www.wsj.com/business/media/the-womens-ncaa-tournament-outshone-the-mens-but-it-got-99-less-tv-money-74806707?st=vcsy78e4ns1j1rs&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
https://www.wsj.com/business/media/the-womens-ncaa-tournament-outshone-the-mens-but-it-got-99-less-tv-money-74806707?st=vcsy78e4ns1j1rs&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
They should reconsider this, AND reconsider the college football national championship. Monday nights are just terrible. It's not bad for me, being on the West Coast, as they put it right in a convenient viewing window. But that means that all of you back east are screwed. 

For CFB, it's a problem because you're up against the NFL, who starts playing Saturdays after the CFB regular season ends. But hell, make a deal with the NFL to carve out ONE time slot for the CFB national championship on the Saturday slate. It's only one day, and basically 4 hours. You already give them Sunday if it's New Years Day and play bowls on Jan 2 instead, so I'm sure they'd be willing to give up one time slot, one day a year.  

But for NCAAM, I don't get it. You're not fighting any other sport on the weekend. Make the Final Four happen on Friday evening (when it's not a work night), and then do the championship on Sunday afternoon. 

Heck, I've traditionally considered the CFP national championship a "I'll casually watch it when I'm not cooking/eating dinner" thing since it's irrelevant to Purdue, and I usually don't even bother watching the basketball tournament national championship because it's inconvenient on a Monday night. I'm sure I'd be more willing to invest time in both if they were on the weekend. 

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25280
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2213 on: April 09, 2024, 05:33:07 PM »
Well, they need to consider that most of the schools/eyeballs are generally in the Eastern and Central time zones too. Way many more missed eyeballs. I could barely make it through the first half last night. And I'm paying for it today. Work still happens to most of us.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

ELA

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20349
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2214 on: April 09, 2024, 05:39:49 PM »
Well, they need to consider that most of the schools/eyeballs are generally in the Eastern and Central time zones too. Way many more missed eyeballs. I could barely make it through the first half last night. And I'm paying for it today. Work still happens to most of us.
4 teams from the Mountain/Pacific time zone have played for a national title in the past 23 tournaments.  Gonzaga twice, UCLA once, San Diego State once

boilerbanger

  • Red Shirt
  • ***
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 217
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2215 on: April 09, 2024, 05:43:52 PM »
Great season, enjoyed the ride this year as we broke down some walls.  Need to keep pushing to get back there now.  Boiler Up!

medinabuckeye1

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 8906
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2216 on: April 09, 2024, 08:19:33 PM »
Adam Rittenburg really digging into his bad take that the Big Ten hasn't won a national title in basketball in 24 years, so they should drop sports to invest more in basketball.

The Big East has had 2 programs win a title since 1984.  Florida has 2 titles 17 years ago, and that's it for the SEC other than Kentucky.  Would you rather have 1 program rack up titles.  Or would you rather have depth?  Because it isn't just 7 runners up, its 7 different runner up schools (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, MSU, OSU, Purdue and Wisconsin).  And if you include the schools they've added, then you add Maryland and UCLA to the mix.  But apparently the Big East should be totally cool with the state of Georgetown and DePaul, because UConn has won 6 national titles, 4 of which were random as hell, but also has missed the tournament a bunch of times and got kicked out of the conference for a period.
I really hate this NC or bust viewpoint.  In the 40 seasons (39 tournaments) since expansion:
  • Nine different teams currently in the B1G have averaged an NCAA Appearance every other year or better - MSU, PU, IU, IL, UW, UMD, M, tOSU, and Iowa
  • 10 of the league's teams have made at least one S16 appearance - MSU, PU, M, IU, UW, UMD, tOSU, IL, IA, MN, PSU
  • Nine different teams have made at least one E8 appearance - MSU, M, tOSU, IU, UW, IL, PU, UMD, MN, IA
  • Eight different teams have made at least one F4 appearance - MSU, M, IU, tOSU, UW, UMD, IL, PU, MN


Kris60

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 2514
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2217 on: April 09, 2024, 09:00:22 PM »
Adam Rittenburg really digging into his bad take that the Big Ten hasn't won a national title in basketball in 24 years, so they should drop sports to invest more in basketball.

The Big East has had 2 programs win a title since 1984.  Florida has 2 titles 17 years ago, and that's it for the SEC other than Kentucky.  Would you rather have 1 program rack up titles.  Or would you rather have depth?  Because it isn't just 7 runners up, its 7 different runner up schools (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, MSU, OSU, Purdue and Wisconsin).  And if you include the schools they've added, then you add Maryland and UCLA to the mix.  But apparently the Big East should be totally cool with the state of Georgetown and DePaul, because UConn has won 6 national titles, 4 of which were random as hell, but also has missed the tournament a bunch of times and got kicked out of the conference for a period.
That’s a ridiculous take on his part.

ELA

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20349
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2218 on: April 09, 2024, 09:29:21 PM »
Roughly 22% of players with remaining eligibility are currently in the portal

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25280
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2219 on: April 10, 2024, 07:01:27 AM »
4 teams from the Mountain/Pacific time zone have played for a national title in the past 23 tournaments.  Gonzaga twice, UCLA once, San Diego State once
You're much younger than me. Did you make it through the whole game?
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37597
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2220 on: April 10, 2024, 09:40:33 AM »
I'm older, I watched the end

but, I had an extra hour
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

ELA

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20349
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2221 on: April 10, 2024, 10:29:08 AM »
You're much younger than me. Did you make it through the whole game?
I was flipping around actually.  I think the last I checked it was about 10 minutes left when UConn pushed it out to 15

medinabuckeye1

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 8906
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2222 on: April 10, 2024, 10:30:38 AM »
Roughly 22% of players with remaining eligibility are currently in the portal
This is not the college sports I grew up with and I don't like it.  

In other news, get off my lawn!

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37597
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2223 on: April 10, 2024, 10:37:39 AM »
I didn't like free agency in the NFL or MLB either

still don't
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18899
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2224 on: April 10, 2024, 10:09:39 PM »
Free agency is better than indentured servitude.  Some would say that's what the players faced pre-transfer portal/NIL.
There's an ocean of gray area between the two extremes.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25280
  • Liked:
Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2225 on: April 11, 2024, 08:39:48 AM »
Free agency is better than indentured servitude.  Some would say that's what the players faced pre-transfer portal/NIL.
There's an ocean of gray area between the two extremes.
I would love to be in a servitude where I get a free education, academic support, clothing, food, healthcare, the best training, and special status on campus.

Sign me up.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.