Their historical success, IMHO isn't nothing and it is more relevant than:There are, IMHO, two differences:
- Indiana's and UCLA's BB success is within the living memory of a lot of people. Minnesota's FB success simply isn't. Their last NC was in 1960 but that is a shaky claim (They were #1 in the final AP Poll but that was before losing the RoseBowl), and it kinda came out of nowhere as they were only co-Champs of the league and hadn't won the league since 1941. The bulk of their success came before the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor and that was almost 83 years ago.
- Indiana and UCLA may not have won a lot of recent BB NC's but they haven't been anywhere near as dormant as Minnesota FB. Minnesota's last league title was in 1967 (split with PU and IU, also IU's last). That and 1960 (split with Iowa) are their only since before the aforementioned bombing of Pearl Harbor which happened a few weeks after Minnesota won the 1941 league title which was their second consecutive and fourth in five years*. Indiana and UCLA BB maybe aren't their former selves but they aren't anywhere near as bad Minnesota FB.
*Imagine a major Gophers fan born in the spring of 1937. His Gophers won four league titles and two NC's before he turned five and yet within his memory they have only two league titles and one dubious claimed NC and he recently turned or will soon celebrate his 87th birthday.
agreed. ucla, and indiana to a slightly lesser extent, are more synonymous to notre dame football.
ucla made the title game in 2006, made the final 4 in 06, 07, 08, and 2021. sweet 16, which i'd equate to non-title bcs bowls, in 06-08, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, and 23. conf tourney champs in 06, 08, and 14, and conf reg season champs in 06, 07, 08, 13, and 23.
ucla also own the most ncaa titles in the nation, and it's a fairly commanding lead.
indiana is similar, just to a slightly less extent.
minn football has nothing close to that.
both are still blue blood, though perhaps slipping down the list (i'm not sure i buy that for ucla, either, though). similar to nd and maybe mich prior to this season. or nebraska.
