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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1274 on: February 16, 2024, 03:04:30 PM »
I'm asking because I really don't even know my own answer and I'm trying to figure it out:

If this were your team, what would interim coach Diebler have to accomplish for you to think "we should keep him."?
From where they are now, making the tournament as an at-large team would make it a discussion. One tournament win makes it a strong possibility. Second weekend gets you the job 100%

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1275 on: February 16, 2024, 03:11:12 PM »
Wisconsin and MSU have had a pretty solid last 30 years thanks to in house promotions and low major in state head coaches
One of those was an agreed-upon succession plan. Wisconsin was a non-agreed-upon succession plan that ultimately worked out.

The other two were Wisconsin hiring Bennett and Ryan, both solidly proven head coaches at lower levels. 

and only one of those was dealing with a coach being fired, I think. Not to say that I don’t think it can work, but if you just paid a boatload of money to fire the last guy, it feels weird to promote his not very proven assistant.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1276 on: February 16, 2024, 03:15:23 PM »
I'm just saying there are a ton of "sure thing, Plan A" hires that don't work.  Then sometimes you miss on your first choices, and land on Jim Tressell, or your former coach games you into his top assistant, after the school wanted nothing to do with him.

It's all a crapshoot.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1277 on: February 16, 2024, 03:23:42 PM »
I'm asking because I really don't even know my own answer and I'm trying to figure it out:

If this were your team, what would interim coach Diebler have to accomplish for you to think "we should keep him."?
Honestly, if he can get OSU out of playing on Wednesday in the B1G tourney, that would do it for me.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1278 on: February 16, 2024, 04:48:45 PM »
Another thing, I haven't gotten around to, is my resume based (2/3 SOR, 1/3 KenPom) Bracketology...

NCAA
MIDWEST

  • #1 PURDUE vs. #16 Merrimack/Norfolk State
  • #8 Grand Canyon vs. #9 Washington State
  • #5 Texas Tech vs. #12 James Madison
  • #4 Dayton vs. #13 McNeese State
  • #3 Auburn vs. #14 Akron
  • #6 Oklahoma vs. #11 Wake Forest
  • #7 MICHIGAN STATE vs. #10 New Mexico
  • #2 Marquette vs. #15 Youngstown State


EAST

  • #1 Connecticut vs. #16 Iona/South Dakota State
  • #8 Texas vs. #9 Kentucky
  • #5 Clemson vs. #12 Princeton
  • #4 WISCONSIN vs. #13 Samford
  • #3 Alabama vs. #14 Vermont
  • #6 Creighton vs. #11 NEBRASKA
  • #7 Florida Atlantic vs. #10 Colorado State
  • #2 North Carolina vs. #15 Colgate



SOUTH

  • #1 Houston vs. #16 Lipscomb
  • #8 Indiana State vs. #9 NORTHWESTERN
  • #5 San Diego State vs. #12 Cincinnati/Providence
  • #4 Duke vs. #13 UNC Wilmington
  • #3 Kansas vs. #14 Morehead State
  • #6 Florida vs. #11 Butler
  • #7 TCU vs. #10 Virginia
  • #2 Tennessee vs. #15 High Point


WEST

  • #1 Arizona vs. #16 Southern
  • #8 Ole Miss vs. #9 Gonzaga
  • #5 BYU vs. #12 Texas A&M/St. John's
  • #4 ILLINOIS vs. #13 UC Irvine
  • #3 Baylor vs. #14 Louisiana Tech
  • #6 South Carolina vs. #11 Saint Mary's
  • #7 Utah State vs. #10 Mississippi State
  • #2 Iowa State vs. #15 Eastern Washington


NIT
RENO

  • #1 Nevada vs. #8 North Dakota
  • #4 Virginia Tech vs. #5 IOWA
  • #3 Colorado vs. #6 MINNESOTA
  • #2 Kansas State vs. #7 NC State


BOISE

  • #1 Boise State vs. #8 Eastern Kentucky
  • #4 RUTGERS vs. #5 Cornell
  • #3 Syracuse vs. #6 Richmond
  • #2 Xavier vs. #7 Yale


NEWARK

  • #1 Seton Hall vs. #8 Quinnipiac
  • #4 Memphis vs. #5 INDIANA
  • #3 Oregon vs. #6 Miami
  • #2 Drake vs. #7 South Florida


PHILADELPHIA

  • #1 Villanova vs. #8 Oakland
  • #4 Pittsburgh vs. #5 MARYLAND
  • #3 SMU vs. #6 Appalachian State
  • #2 Utah vs. #7 San Francisco

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1279 on: February 16, 2024, 04:49:11 PM »
Also, has there ever been a bigger football/basketball divide?  The only 3 schools not even projected into the NIT right now are UM, OSU and PSU

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1280 on: February 16, 2024, 05:01:43 PM »
One of those was an agreed-upon succession plan. Wisconsin was a non-agreed-upon succession plan that ultimately worked out.

The other two were Wisconsin hiring Bennett and Ryan, both solidly proven head coaches at lower levels.

and only one of those was dealing with a coach being fired, I think. Not to say that I don’t think it can work, but if you just paid a boatload of money to fire the last guy, it feels weird to promote his not very proven assistant.
Alando Tucker tried to join the succession plan

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1281 on: February 16, 2024, 05:03:21 PM »
I'm asking because I really don't even know my own answer and I'm trying to figure it out:

If this were your team, what would interim coach Diebler have to accomplish for you to think "we should keep him."?
Honestly, I'm trying to remember a time when a coach got canned due to poor performance (as opposed to scandal or something), and then they promoted someone and it worked out. I feel like it happened, but I can't remember where or how.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1282 on: February 16, 2024, 07:28:08 PM »
There have been so few in season bball coach firings I don’t know how OSU responds. Part of me says it doesn’t matter who the coach is if we take care of the ball Sunday we will win. E have more experience in football with the one game boost from a new coach, but just sure what an impact he can have in 2-3 practices before Purdue rolls into town. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1283 on: February 16, 2024, 08:38:09 PM »
Honestly, I'm trying to remember a time when a coach got canned due to poor performance (as opposed to scandal or something), and then they promoted someone and it worked out. I feel like it happened, but I can't remember where or how.
Ed Orgeron, if the goal is a super high ceiling

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1284 on: February 16, 2024, 08:42:32 PM »
Also Frieder was fired at Michigan, and Steve Fisher cheated his ass off to keep that job

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1285 on: February 17, 2024, 06:46:06 AM »
Ed Orgeron, if the goal is a super high ceiling
Lol that's a good one. Both great and terrible at the same time

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1286 on: February 17, 2024, 06:47:36 AM »
Also Frieder was fired at Michigan, and Steve Fisher cheated his ass off to keep that job
Wasn't he fired because he was leaving or something? Though Fisher turned out to be a great coach, cheating or not

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1287 on: February 17, 2024, 09:34:14 AM »
Alando Tucker tried to join the succession plan
His number will never be in the rafters.

Still doesn't have a job, and probably never will.

F him.
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