2022 Wisconsin Season Thread

[bayareabadger]

Time to circle the wagons here.

Since 2019, this Wisconsin program is in decline. Those kids did not even belong on the same field as Ohio State last night. It looked like 2014 in Indy - after which UW started to make a climb as a program.

The standard is 10 wins and a NYD6 bowl game. That seems so unattainable at this time it's not even being discussed.

Fans are hoping for 7 wins.

And here we are.

Changes need to be made. If not, UW will fall back to what it was prior to what King Barry built.

Not Don Morton bad, but a perennial 6-6/7-5/8-4 team.

I'm not feeling quite as dire, but I tend to live on a more even keel. I assumed there would be dips from 10 wins and a NYD6 bowl game. That's the nature of things. 

But I'm concerned because the particular things that an offensive head coach could wrangle out of his offense have been lacking of late (I THINK they're possibly lacking now, but I need some numbers that don't come out for a bit). I'm trying to think, what's missing from where I think UW should be.

-Offensive line isn't dominating as it should
-Defense is worse, I think, and I can't tell by how much. I didn't think last year's level was sustainable, but are they top-20, top-40
-The tenet of PC's offenses, even some of the so-so ones, was the ability to get QBs to the level of a quality efficiency passing game that kept things honest on this downs. They simply haven't been there. 
-Special seem less than good, and they keep punting too much, so they're losing hidden yards all over.

I assume the second will solve out with Jimmy. UW just tried to fire its way to fixing the first and third, and clearly the quoted post exists, so we've not solved that. 

I tend to let the season play out, but still not the most enjoyable contest. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I'm not feeling quite as dire, but I tend to live on a more even keel. I assumed there would be dips from 10 wins and a NYD6 bowl game. That's the nature of things.

I think some of this is that just how good Ohio State is matters. Obviously Wisconsin fans don't want to see their team blown out but that said, there IS a difference between being blown out by an extremely good team and being blown out by a less impressive opponent. 

If you look at the game, Ohio State scored their fourth TD in the first minute of the second quarter on a drive that started in the first quarter. At that point it was 28-0 and, for all intents and purposes the game was over. In the remaining 44 minutes of the game the Buckeyes did outscore the Badgers but it was only 24-21. 

When Ohio State's offense is clicking that is what they can do. When Wisconsin has a rough opening quarter against most teams they'll find themselves down 10-0 or maybe 14-0. That is still a winnable game. Against this Ohio State team a rough opening quarter means a Grand Canyon sized hole that is simply impossible to dig out of.

I'd say that you need to see how not only UW but also tOSU does the rest of the way. 

[847badgerfan]

I just hope OSU doesn't beat Wisconsin this week. Illinois is not a slouch anymore.

[CatsbyAZ]

There's sure a lot of editorial mileage being made of Wisconsin's blowout loss to OSU.

Here this highly speculative sports blog is referencing an Ohio State fan site contributor to weigh whether Wisconsin’s admin is ready to move on from Paul Chryst and make a move for Lance Leopold(?):

“Chryst is an incredibly disappointing 15-9 in his last 24 games. There’s not a Wisconsin fan on the planet happy with that record. At some point, you either accept living in mediocrity forever or you make a change. It seems like fans are in agreement it’s time for the latter.

Is Lance Leipold the answer for Wisconsin? Leipold has Kansas off to their best start in 13 years, and the Jayhawks are off to an impressive 4-0 start. If you can win at Kansas, you can win anywhere. Plus, Lance Leipold is a proven winner everywhere he’s been a head coach. He won six national titles at UW-Whitewater and he won 24 games in his final three years at Buffalo. The man can coach and he does it without the resources traditional powers have.”



https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1574709182116220928

[bayareabadger]

There's sure a lot of editorial mileage being made of Wisconsin's blowout loss to OSU.

Here this highly speculative sports blog is referencing an Ohio State fan site contributor to weigh whether Wisconsin’s admin is ready to move on from Paul Chryst and make a move for Lance Leopold(?):

“Chryst is an incredibly disappointing 15-9 in his last 24 games. There’s not a Wisconsin fan on the planet happy with that record. At some point, you either accept living in mediocrity forever or you make a change. It seems like fans are in agreement it’s time for the latter.

Is Lance Leipold the answer for Wisconsin? Leipold has Kansas off to their best start in 13 years, and the Jayhawks are off to an impressive 4-0 start. If you can win at Kansas, you can win anywhere. Plus, Lance Leipold is a proven winner everywhere he’s been a head coach. He won six national titles at UW-Whitewater and he won 24 games in his final three years at Buffalo. The man can coach and he does it without the resources traditional powers have.”



https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1574709182116220928

That is some hot trash.

Like, it’s an interesting idea that everyone had and isn’t worth talking about.

[MrNubbz]

Is Lance Leipold the answer for Wisconsin? Leipold has Kansas off to their best start in 13 years, and the Jayhawks are off to an impressive 4-0 start. If you can win at Kansas, you can win anywhere. Plus, Lance Leipold is a proven winner everywhere he’s been a head coach. He won six national titles at UW-Whitewater and he won 24 games in his final three years at Buffalo. The man can coach and he does it without the resources traditional powers have.”

This is the path the Buckeyes took with Tressel and we waited too long .But PC is a better HC than JC,Tressel won 4 national titles in 6 tries at YSU.

[FearlessF]

and the path that shit canned Solich

the blowouts!

[CatsbyAZ]

Yes, the program is suffering a multi-year gradual decline. Yes, the OL was playing uncharacteristically disorganized. Yes, yesterday's lifeless blowout loss at home to Illinois might fit the "sudden" part of my favorite quote on bankruptcy - “Gradually, then suddenly," to quote Hemingway.

But in the shock of it, I figured PC had enough of a goodwill leash to survive Madison into next season.


https://twitter.com/IKE_Badgers/status/1576712398601596929

[MrNubbz]

Leonard or Leipold,good luck PC,seemed the Brass had to get the jump on a difference maker - good luck to them.The conference is always better when the Camp is a factor.Hope Sparty wakes up soon also as their HC tain't goin' nowhere

[Cincydawg]

In general, I don't like firing the HC midseason (without real cause).  I don't think it's fair to any interim coach vying for the job.  I doubt it enhances the win probability in that season at all.  I would certainly be looking around, but I'd let the season play out.

[FearlessF]

crazy stuff

[Benthere2]

Leonard or Leipold,good luck PC,seemed the Brass had to get the jump on a difference maker - good luck to them.The conference is always better when the Camp is a factor.Hope Sparty wakes up soon also as their HC tain't goin' nowhere

if the brass wanted their DC then tell the coach now or whatever but to dismiss a decent coach mid season is a whole different story,  if the guy you want is already on the staff this seems a little extreme.  if the coach they want is not on the staff then I guess i see it if they can get that intended coach now in mid season and not have to wait.  

just seems like a gut punch for PC to get axed this way, in mid season 

Frost firing i get since he hasnt won since coming there.  but PC has a winning percentage and has been a great coach (two coach of the year awards) 

good luck PC i hope things work out 

[jgvol]

I wonder how much this uncharacteristic mid-season firing trend is 'transfer portal' related?

That's about the only thing I can figure as to why this is now a thing?

[MrNubbz]

if the brass wanted their DC then tell the coach now or whatever but to dismiss a decent coach mid season is a whole different story,  if the guy you want is already on the staff this seems a little extreme.  if the coach they want is not on the staff then I guess i see it if they can get that intended coach now in mid season and not have to wait. 

just seems like a gut punch for PC to get axed this way, in mid season

The team appeared to be mailing it in and underperforming by Badger standards. Perhaps a must move from a recruitng perspective IMHO so I don't blame the AD.It's not the old days where they had some patience - much faster get 'er done now time we live in