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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2022, 06:33:31 PM »
It's kind of fun.  The 1-16 aspect familiarity will appeal to people who love March Madness.
The where/who will they play aspect is interesting.  Underdog teams would always be last at the trough, which is a good thing, imo.
2022 (with some upsets thrown in, to illustrate)
16 LSU loses @ 1 UGA
9 PSU loses @ 8 USC
12 Wash loses @ 5 Bama
13 FSU loses @ 4 OSU
6 Tenn loses to 11 KSU
14 Tulane loses @ 3 TCU
7 Utah loses to 10 Clemson
15 Oregon loses @ 2 UM
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UGA has first choice of playing in Fiesta, Holiday, Citrus, or Cotton.
1 UGA chooses Citrus.
2 UM chooses Cotton.
3 TCU chooses Fiesta (would love Cotton, but smartly avoids UM for now).
4 OSU "stuck with" Holiday.
5 Bama chooses Cotton.
6 and 7 lost already, remember.
8 USC chooses Holiday, right down I-5.
10 Clemson chooses Citrus.
11 KSU "stuck with" Fiesta.
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UGA over Clemson
Bama over UM
OSU over USC
KSU over TCU
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Now we've got the Sugar and Orange as the semifinals.  RB is the NCG.
1 UGA chooses Sugar (tradition, fans can drive (closer than Miami, actually).
2 and 3 lost (just for sake of upsets, I don't think they'd actually lose).
4 OSU chooses Orange.
5 Bama chooses Sugar.
11 KSU "stuck with" Orange.
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1 UGA vs 4 OSU in RB for NC. 
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2022, 11:22:29 PM »
Nobody is travelling to 3 consecutive bowl games.

That's why I like my initial proposal, reduce bowls, and make the selection criteria both for inclusion and tiers mandatory.

Everyone always says "if you don't like the extra bowls, don't watch them."  Except, it makes the regular season meaningless, once you are out of the CFP race.  If you are even halfway decent, you make a bowl, so bowl selection doesn't matter.  Plus, bowl selection is based on moving teams around, and eyeballs, so it's not like winning extra games puts you in a better bowl.

This makes getting to a bowl something more selective, and each better bowl, by definition, more elite.  So, how do you make them "matter"?  So I've got 5 tiers of bowls.  The top tier doubles as a quarterfinals.  No need to add incentive there.  What if winning a Tier 2 bowl earns you an extra scholarship, or 4.  Tier 3 = 3.  Tier 4 = 2.  Tier 5 = 1.  I'd care a whole lot then.  Or you also tiered the payouts, and that money didn't go into some conference pot, or to the school.  It went directly into your schools NIL fund?

Still wouldn't fix the opt out situation, but I'm thinking out loud here
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2022, 10:11:45 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2022, 11:22:29 PM
Nobody is travelling to 3 consecutive bowl games.


do you mean playoff games?

this is true
This is why at least the first round should be done on campus.  Better seed gets the home field.  We all want to see the better teams advance anyway.  The cinderella is just a little more of an underdog and therefore more desirable.
The home fans might go to the home game and one other playoff game

the underdogs might go to the first round expecting to not make the second. 

as for the lower tier bowls, who cares?  I enjoyed the games yesterday and it seemed the players and coaches did too.
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2022, 10:19:54 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 21, 2022, 10:11:45 AM
do you mean playoff games?

this is true
Correct
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2022, 10:34:18 AM »
I wouldn't have a playoff a tall, unless it was simply a matchup of undefeateds after the bowls, such as 1994 PSU-UNL or 1997 MU-UNL

but if it were a playoff two rounds is plenty
TCU travels to Michigan, Ohio State travels to Georgia

winners meet in Pasadena, or Miami, or Tempe, or New Orleans, or Atlanta, or Vegas

more rounds?  more home games

talk about incentive to get in the playoffs with a higher seed?!?!?
another home game!!!  ticket sales, hotels, bars, local $$$.  Share 50% of the gate with the visitor and keep all the local revenue!

the only game at a neutral site is the final
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2022, 01:24:43 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2022, 11:22:29 PM
Nobody is travelling to 3 consecutive bowl games.

How many are actually travelling to 2?
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2022, 02:13:17 PM »
not many if both are not within driving distance
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Re: 2022 What-If Bowl Scenarios
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2022, 06:32:57 PM »
So let's stop pretending actual fans are traveling to these games.  They're for corporate people and normal, non-wealthy fans can't afford them.  
Whether it's 2 or 3 or 10, doesn't matter.  
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Anyway, going to 16 is just before it's time.  2 wasn't enough, then it's 4.  4 wasn't enough, now it's 12.  16 is inevitable.  If for no other reason than $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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