2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

[ELA]

Um, ok?


https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1602341130489716738?t=FP97S4HHGdQIom5A1k-Cdg&s=19

[ELA]

Massey Composite Rankings (35 rankings - last week in parentheses)

• Connecticut (3)
• PURDUE (2)
• Tennessee (5)
• Houston (1)
• Kansas (6)
• Alabama (8)
• Texas (4)
• Arizona (13)
• Duke (11)
• Gonzaga (15)
• Virginia (12)
• UCLA (14)
• Arkansas (10)
• Baylor (20)
• Mississippi State (16)
• MARYLAND (7)
• West Virginia (23)
• Kentucky (25)
• INDIANA (17)
• ILLINOIS (18)
• Auburn (9)
• Saint Mary's (-)
• IOWA (19)
• Virginia Tech (-)
• Utah State (24)

• 26. Wisconsin (38)
• 28. Ohio State (27)
• 40. Penn State (46)
• 41. Michigan State (59)
• 47. Rutgers (37)
• 60. Michigan (67)
• 63. Northwestern (63)
• 78. Nebraska (71)
• 175. Minnesota (156)

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https://twitter.com/ryanavasq/status/1602376374794305539?t=u8JYr_8wevfzUOLzbkXJXA&s=19

[bayareabadger]

Northwestern continued their annual tradition of playing their best game of the season against MSU, but at least ground out a win against Prairie View.

I think Minnesota hired the right coach, seems like a bright guy, but the talent level should still be this low in Year 2.  The gap between #13 and the Gophers is HUGE

I have been hammering the portal too. Their decent top scorer from last year has seemed to struggle a bit, as it is their highly thought of UNC transfer

[medinabuckeye1]

Massey Composite Rankings (35 rankings - last week in parentheses)

• 78. Nebraska (71)
• 175. Minnesota (156)

You have commented on it already, but this gap is staggering. Nebraska at #78 isn't quite a tournament team but they aren't that far off. In this league we have 13 tournament quality or near tournament quality teams then a humongous gap.

[FearlessF]

seems odd that Nebraska would take the #2 team to OT and move down 7 spots

what did the teams from 70-80 do last week??  something more impressive?

[847badgerfan]

Based on our tiers, the standings after the final weekend in January (roughly the halfway point of the conference season) project to be:

• 9-1 Illinois
• 9-2 Purdue
• 7-3 Indiana
• 7-4 Iowa
• 6-4 Ohio State
• 6-4 Rutgers
• 6-5 Michigan State
• 5-5 Maryland
• 5-5 Michigan
• 4-6 Wisconsin
• 3-7 Northwestern
• 3-7 Penn State
• 2-9 Nebraska
• 0-10 Minnesota

So we can look back after the Sunday, January 29 games and see how close we were. 

This won't be close.

[ELA]

My first resume only Bracket of the year (2/3 SOR, 1/3 KenPom), for now using SOR to determine regular season champ, and KenPom for tourney champ

12/13 Update

NCAA
EAST

• #1 Connecticut vs. #16 Wagner/Longwood
• #8 ILLINOIS vs. #9 Iowa State
• #5 West Virginia vs. #12 UM Lowell
• #4 Virginia Tech vs. #13 Yale
• #3 Mississippi State vs. #14 James Madison
• #6 Kansas State vs. #11 Utah
• #7 Arizona State vs. #10 Charleston
• #2 Houston vs. #15 Norfolk State

MIDWEST

• #1 PURDUE vs. #16 Colgate/Texas A&M-CC
• #8 Xavier vs. #9 San Diego State
• #5 Miami vs. #12 Kent State
• #4 Texas vs. #13 Drake
• #3 Gonzaga vs. #14 Oral Roberts
• #6 Auburn vs. #11 Sam Houston State
• #7 UCLA vs. #10 Marquette
• #2 Tennessee vs. #15 Youngstown State

SOUTH

• #1 Virginia vs. #16 SIU Edwardsville
• #8 New Mexico vs. #9 MICHIGAN STATE
• #5 MARYLAND vs. #12 UAB
• #4 Baylor vs. #13 Iona
• #3 Duke vs. #14 Liberty
• #6 Memphis vs. #11 IOWA/Ole Miss
• #7 Florida Atlantic vs. #10 Boise State
• #2 Alabama vs. #15 Grambling

WEST

• #1 Kansas vs. #16 Montana State
• #8 OHIO STATE vs. #9 Kentucky
• #5 Utah State vs. #12 Saint Louis
• #4 WISCONSIN vs. #13 UC Irvine
• #3 Arkansas vs. #14 UC Riverside
• #6 INDIANA vs. #11 North Carolina/LSU
• #7 UNLV vs. #10 St. John's
• #2 Arizona vs. #15 Furman

NIT
FORT WORTH

• #1 TCU vs. #8 Chattanooga
• #4 UNC Wilmington vs. #5 Western Kentucky
• #3 Creighton vs. #6 Louisiana
• #2 MICHIGAN vs. #7 Washington

STATE COLLEGE

• #1 PENN STATE vs. #8 High Point
• #4 Fordham vs. #5 Central Florida
• #3 North Texas vs. #6 Seton Hall
• #2 Texas Tech vs. #7 Florida Gulf Coast

COLUMBIA

• #1 Missouri vs. #8 Fort Wayne
• #4 NC State vs. #5 Massachusetts
• #3 Marshall vs. #6 Seattle
• #2 Oklahoma vs. #7 Northwestern State

MORAGA

• #1 Saint Mary's vs. #8 Northern Colorado
• #4 Nevada vs. #5 Southern Miss
• #3 Butler vs. #6 Oklahoma State
• #2 NORTHWESTERN vs. #7 American

• Nebraska - #3 team out of NIT
• Rutgers - #4 team out of NIT

[ELA]

Saturday has 5 games between WWL projected top 4 seeds

• Noon - (4) Indiana at (2) Kansas
• 1:00 - (1) Alabama vs. (4) Gonzaga
• 2:00 - (2) Houston at (1) Virginia
• 5:30 - (4) Kentucky vs. (4) UCLA
• 10:30 - (2) Tennessee at (2) Arizona

Even if the seeds held, you'd only get 4 such games on a Sweet 16 day.  Throw in 3 NFL games, and the WC final, should be a solid Saturday

[847badgerfan]

Isn't the WC final on Sunday?

[ELA]

Isn't the WC final on Sunday?

Yeah, it's the 3rd place match on Saturday.  Why is that a thing?

[medinabuckeye1]

I wouldn't normally post a mid-week update and I'm late with this but Wisconsin's win at Iowa on Sunday was our last league game until December 29.  Thus, the current projections will not change for at least two weeks so here they are.  First, the tiers are:

• PU, IL, IU
• IA, tOSU, RU, UMD, MSU
• UW, M, PSU
• UNL, NU
• BLANK
• MN

The upsets so far have been:

So MSU is even with one up and one down.  Northwestern and Wisconsin are both +1 while PSU and Iowa are both -1. 

Projected final standings/BTT seeds:

• 16-4 Purdue
• 14-6 Indiana
• 14-6 Illinois
• 12-8 Rutgers
• 12-8 Iowa
• 12-8 Ohio State
• 12-8 Maryland
• 11-9 Michigan State
• 10-10 Wisconsin
• 9-11 Michigan
• 8-12 Penn State
• 5-15 Nebraska
• 5-15 Northwestern
• 0-20 Minnesota

The tiebreakers for the two ties are:
For the 14-6 tie:

• Indiana wins based on a projected 1-1 record against Purdue
• Illinois loses based on a projected 0-1 record against Purdue (they do not host the Boilermakers)

For the four-way 12-8 tie:

• Iowa:  RU and IA win the initial, 4-way H2H2H2H at 3-2 because neither travels to College Park, Maryland.  RU and Iowa then go to record against the best team but both project to go 0-1 against PU so it moves to record against IL and IU where Iowa prevails because they host but do not visit the Illini while Rutgers visits but does not host the Illini.  Both teams play IU twice and are projected to go 1-1 against the Hoosiers.  Since teams in tier-2 are projected to beat Illinois at home and lose to them on the road, Iowa gets the #4 seed. 
• Rutgers:  see above
• Ohio State is third in the initial 4-way H2H2H2H with a record of 3-3 due to playing all three teams twice each. 
• Maryland loses the initial 4-way H2H2H2H at 1-3 due to hosting neither the Hawkeyes nor the Scarlet Knights. 

For the two-way 5-15 tie (note that #12 and #13 play on the first day of the BTT so this tiebreaker only determines jersey color:

• Nebraska wins because they do not visit Evanston. 
• Northwestern loses because they do not host the Cornhuskers. 

Thus, the match-ups for the B1G Tournament at the United Center in Chicago, Illinois would be:
Wednesday, March 8, 2023:

• #11 Penn State vs #14 Minnesota, 830pm BTN
• #12 Nebraska vs #13 Northwestern, 6pm BTN

Thursday, March 9, 2023:

• #5 Rutgers vs UNL/NU, 230pm BTN
• #6 Ohio State vs PSU/MN, 9pm BTN
• #7 Maryland vs #10 Michigan, 630pm BTN
• #8 Michigan State vs #9 Wisconsin, noon BTN

Friday, March 10, 2023:

• #1 Purdue vs MSU/UW, noon BTN
• #2 Indiana vs UMD/M, 630pm BTN
• #3 Illinois vs tOSU/PSU/MN, 9pm BTN
• #4 Iowa vs RU/UNL/NU, 230pm BTN

Saturday, March 11, 2023:

• PU/MSU/UW vs RU/IA/UNL/NU, 1pm CBS
• IU/UMD/M vs IL/tOSU/PSU/MN, 330pm CBS

Sunday, March 12, 2023:

• PU/MSU/UW/RU/IA/UNL/NU vs IL/UMD/M/IU/tOSU/PSU/MN, 330pm CBS

EDIT:  Fixed @grillrat 's catch that I missed PSU's road win at Illinois.  

[ELA]

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[ELA]

I wouldn't normally post a mid-week update and I'm late with this but Wisconsin's win at Iowa on Sunday was our last league game until December 29.  Thus, the current projections will not change for at least two weeks so here they are.  First, the tiers are:

• PU, IL, IU
• IA, tOSU, RU, UMD, MSU
• UW, M, PSU
• UNL, NU
• BLANK
• MN

I'd move Illinois and Indiana down, and Wisconsin up.  Possibly MSU down to #3, but I know you aren't because of Izzo