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Topic: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread

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MrNubbz

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2020, 12:16:33 PM »
Yeah, I don’t see it. Zordich is average at best position coach, he is a terrible recruiter, and he teaches his guys to hold and commit PI and Michigan CBs get called for more holds and PI than any team in the conference. How is that good coaching ?
Well Belicheat taught that to,maybe more discreet
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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2020, 03:13:57 PM »
rumors are that Muschamp might be Michigan's next DC. I wouldn't be against that move at all. I'd like Chris Partridge back as well. Maybe do a Co-DC thing but in name only for Partridge and just let him recruit and coach safeties, and let Muschamp run the show.

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2020, 03:56:58 PM »
rumors are that Muschamp might be Michigan's next DC. I wouldn't be against that move at all. I'd like Chris Partridge back as well. Maybe do a Co-DC thing but in name only for Partridge and just let him recruit and coach safeties, and let Muschamp run the show.
The sourcing seems very flimsy. On the plus side, he’s the opposite of Don in bend don’t break-ness

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2020, 04:07:03 PM »
The sourcing seems very flimsy. On the plus side, he’s the opposite of Don in bend don’t break-ness
Yeah, it's coming from all SEC/South Carolina sources. Kind of second guessing it now, but we'll see. I'd still take that hire. I think. Especially if they could somehow convince Chris Partridge to comeback as a Co-DC in name and pay raise only. I think you get that combo- it's a home-run. Partridge is one of the best recruiters Michigan has ever had and he's got deep ties in NJ and GA- two talent rich states.

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2020, 04:08:19 PM »
RB Chris Evans declares for NFL Draft. That seems odd to me. He was going to be able to get an extra year because of COVID. He missed all of 2019 because of an academic suspension and was billed as a Day 2 NFL draft prospect- and that's before he had about 5 carries in 2020.

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2020, 04:09:44 PM »
Yeah, it's coming from all SEC/South Carolina sources. Kind of second guessing it now, but we'll see. I'd still take that hire. I think. Especially if they could somehow convince Chris Partridge to comeback as a Co-DC in name and pay raise only. I think you get that combo- it's a home-run. Partridge is one of the best recruiters Michigan has ever had and he's got deep ties in NJ and GA- two talent rich states.
I live in the south, the sources are not people who know things.

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2020, 04:10:36 PM »
I live in the south, the sources are not people who know things.
what's your take on him? bad head coach, good DC? or just bad coach all-around? How is he as a recruiter?

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2020, 09:57:08 AM »
what's your take on him? bad head coach, good DC? or just bad coach all-around? How is he as a recruiter?
So, he's interesting. The South Carolina tenure had some interesting outliers. I don't think he's a bad choice as DC, but it just depends what version of him arrives.

I don't think he's a good head coach, but it's been because he could get existing talent to play somewhat well, but thing tailed, off, which is odd. He'd been a good DC and more often than not a good defensive HC, though his last South Carolina defense was surprisingly atrocious. He's only been a DC once since 2010, and that was a group at Auburn that had some talent but was surprisingly meh. 

If he arrives fiery and can get that jolt into a defense, he can get them pretty good, I think. When they're not super talented, he goes bend-don't-break with the best of them. A lot of Cover-3 with a safety in the box and more cover-1 man free with better talent. They emphasize turnovers and bowing up in the red zone. His teams often play hard, so that's a plus.

He's traditionally considered a strong recruiter, both as assistant and as HC. He's the most SEC man alive, so he's not above the slime to a degree, not deep in it. He'll promise a kid he'll be around when he has not plans to be. He was traditionally seen as a guy who could both lang blue chips and ID sleepers. That took a hit as he managed to build a SC roster that rates much better by starz than by actual pieces. He used to be considered a game-changer on the trail, but I'd downgrade him to just a solid plus at this point. 

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2020, 10:36:16 AM »
I'd steer clear.
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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2020, 10:57:52 AM »
Muschamp would be a fantastic hire for Michigan DC. He's nailed it as a coordinator where ever he's worked. Orgeron is a fair comparison when it comes to recruiting, motivating a defense, and firing up his players. His defenses are built around the DL, and they aren't inclined to not give an inch even when up or down by 20. The downsides of Muschamp (clock management, in-game strategy, the offense) would all be out of his hands if hired as DC.
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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2020, 02:02:40 PM »
I'll take some bend but don't break. For sure. Don's defense was no bend, all break. Dude played man to man across the board and blitzed like 97.8% of the time. 

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2020, 07:46:28 PM »
Muschamp would be a fantastic hire for Michigan DC. He's nailed it as a coordinator where ever he's worked. Orgeron is a fair comparison when it comes to recruiting, motivating a defense, and firing up his players. His defenses are built around the DL, and they aren't inclined to not give an inch even when up or down by 20. The downsides of Muschamp (clock management, in-game strategy, the offense) would all be out of his hands if hired as DC.
His last defense as a coordinator was 48th in yards per play allowed, 67th in points allowed per drive. That was one year with Auburn talent.

That's his only DC work since 2010. That's not to say it can't work, but it's been a while since his last successful moment like that.

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2020, 10:12:29 AM »
DE Aidan Hutchinson returning for his Senior year. Thought that would happen.

In other news, DE Rashad Weaver from Pitt named first team All-American. Weaver was a 2* commit to Michigan out of Florida that Harbaugh ultimately processed when he was able to sign higher ranked players near NSD. Harbaugh has done this a lot more than people realize. He's the commit process king.

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Re: 2021 Michigan Off-Season Thread
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2020, 10:16:59 AM »
He wouldn't have a job in the real world.Make bad decisions accompanied by luck isn't a winning perscription
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