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Mdot21

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #140 on: December 14, 2021, 09:25:34 PM »
I thought Jadeveon Clowney was the best ever because of one highlight play vs Michigan?
this lmao. a play in which the OL & TE blew their assignments- Clowney went completely unblocked and blew up Vincent Smith- a 5'6, 170 pound RB.

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #141 on: December 14, 2021, 09:27:15 PM »
We should do a poll.

Which group contains the best defensive player in college football history?

A)  Aidan Hutchinson
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B)  EVERYONE ELSE IN HISTORY
you are acting like an irrational woman. who said Aidan Hutchinson was the greatest defensive player in college football history? 

he's not even the best defensive player to ever play at his own school. ever heard of charles woodson? 

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #142 on: December 14, 2021, 09:29:58 PM »
Hmm.  Maybe you're right.

But I do have a question:  how many past highest-rated defenders were Heisman finalists?  What color were they?
Just going by top three:

2021: Hutchinson, White
2012: Manti Te'o, Samoan
1997: Charles Woodson, Black
1980: Hugh Green, Black
1972: Rich Glover, Black
1964: Dick Butkus, White
1962: Bob Bell, Black
1957: Alex Karras, White
1948: Chuck Bednarik, White

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #143 on: December 14, 2021, 09:31:38 PM »
you are acting like an irrational woman. who said Aidan Hutchinson was the greatest defensive player in college football history?

he's not even the best defensive player to ever play at his own school. ever heard of charles woodson?
MaximumSam did.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #144 on: December 14, 2021, 09:32:14 PM »
Just going by top three:

2021: Hutchinson, White
2012: Manti Te'o, Samoan
1997: Charles Woodson, Black
1980: Hugh Green, Black
1972: Rich Glover, Black
1964: Dick Butkus, White
1962: Bob Bell, Black
1957: Alex Karras, White
1948: Chuck Bednarik, White

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I appreciate the effort, but this doesn't answer my question, either.
Read slower maybe?
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #145 on: December 14, 2021, 09:32:18 PM »
maybe the most overrated play ever by one of the most overrated college football players ever right here...SEC! SEC! SEC! GrAyesT rEcRuiT EvErrrRRRR tho.

LT Taylor Lewan runs on an angle right and into the defensive tackle, the TE to the left of Lewan tries to follow Lewan and neither one of them lay a finger on Clowney- and he darts into the backfield completely untouched and completely unblocked bc of bungled OL play and he blows up literally a 5-foot, 6-inch, 170 pound Vincent Smith and people lose their shit. Not impressive at all- and it probably made the guy the #1 pick in the draft and his rep lived off this stupid play for a year plus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JYx-_eXQa4

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #146 on: December 14, 2021, 09:32:41 PM »
you are acting like an irrational woman. who said Aidan Hutchinson was the greatest defensive player in college football history?

he's not even the best defensive player to ever play at his own school. ever heard of charles woodson?
Sexist.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #147 on: December 14, 2021, 09:33:54 PM »
Where did I specify only sacks matter?  You're inventing shit now.  Please stop. 
Stop what? You are going on about the best statistical seasons. Statistical seasons I assume means the stats that we generally keep - tackle, sacks, tackles for loss, interceptions, fumble recoveries, that sort of thing. Am I wrong on that? Aren't sacks and tackles for loss the glory stats for front seven players? Don't wax on about statistical seasons then in the same breathe say you aren't talking about the stats.

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #148 on: December 14, 2021, 09:34:49 PM »
I appreciate the effort, but this doesn't answer my question, either.
Read slower maybe?
Write better, maybe?

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #149 on: December 14, 2021, 09:34:56 PM »
Stop what? You are going on about the best statistical seasons. Statistical seasons I assume means the stats that we generally keep - tackle, sacks, tackles for loss, interceptions, fumble recoveries, that sort of thing. Am I wrong on that? Aren't sacks and tackles for loss the glory stats for front seven players? Don't wax on about statistical seasons then in the same breathe say you aren't talking about the stats.
Oh, you admit it.  Fantastic!
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #150 on: December 14, 2021, 09:37:03 PM »
Write better, maybe?
How many past highest-rated defensive players were Heisman finalsits?  

As in "highest rated" by PFF.  You know, what he and I were talking about.  
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #151 on: December 14, 2021, 09:52:10 PM »
How many past highest-rated defensive players were Heisman finalsits? 

As in "highest rated" by PFF.  You know, what he and I were talking about. 
PFF, as far as I can tell, has only looked at college players since 2014. 

2021: Hutchinson, Anderson, Jordan Davis
2020: No one
2019: Chase Young
2018: Quinnen Williams
2017: Roquan Smith
2016: Jonathan Allen
2015: No one
2014: Scooby Wright

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #152 on: December 14, 2021, 09:52:38 PM »
Oh, you admit it.  Fantastic!
So you concede what is stunningly obvious? Good to know.

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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #153 on: December 14, 2021, 09:53:59 PM »
Okay, so 25% of the black players and half the white dudes.  

Don't get mad at me because this small sample agrees with me.
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