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Topic: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1974 on: March 25, 2022, 09:25:05 PM »
St. Peter was a pretty important person to God, as it turns out

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1975 on: March 25, 2022, 09:52:27 PM »

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1976 on: March 26, 2022, 11:31:08 AM »
apparently the committee really screwed up

that squad doesn't look or play like a #15 seed 

should easily have been an 11 or 12
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1977 on: March 26, 2022, 12:32:26 PM »
8 v 15.   Just looks hilarious to see that in an E8 game.   It's like a 1-7 leave in bowling.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1978 on: March 26, 2022, 02:13:29 PM »
apparently the committee really screwed up

that squad doesn't look or play like a #15 seed

should easily have been an 11 or 12
Eh, the numbers would disagree.  They were properly seeded

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1979 on: March 26, 2022, 02:14:32 PM »
Don't you know 2-3 games should be valued over a sample size of 30?!?!?!
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1980 on: March 26, 2022, 02:23:07 PM »
As a league.
Hey, some teams performed to or above (Michigan) seed!

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1981 on: March 26, 2022, 04:17:15 PM »
apparently the committee really screwed up

that squad doesn't look or play like a #15 seed

should easily have been an 11 or 12
But they did for all of the season up until they were seeded. 

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« Reply #1982 on: March 26, 2022, 04:19:44 PM »
As a league.
I used to care about the league element, less so as things roll on.

How teams do in the dance doesn't tell me a ton other than how teams do in the dance. Which carries its own weight, but if you're a good league, you'll be prone to years like this. I suppose I would've felt better if it was UW losing to Miami last night, but is what it is. 

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1983 on: March 26, 2022, 08:13:28 PM »
I used to care about the league element, less so as things roll on.

How teams do in the dance doesn't tell me a ton other than how teams do in the dance. Which carries its own weight, but if you're a good league, you'll be prone to years like this. I suppose I would've felt better if it was UW losing to Miami last night, but is what it is.
And really from an optics standpoint the issue was 2 of the top 3 (Wisconsin and Illinois) underperformed relative to seed, and Purdue performed to seed, but lost to a 15 seed, with the top 5 seeds in their region cleared out.

If Wisconsin and Illinois had performed to seed (reach a Sweet 16), but MSU and OSU hadn't (lost a 7-10 game), that would have looked better from a narrative standpoint.

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« Reply #1984 on: March 26, 2022, 10:54:39 PM »
And really from an optics standpoint the issue was 2 of the top 3 (Wisconsin and Illinois) underperformed relative to seed, and Purdue performed to seed, but lost to a 15 seed, with the top 5 seeds in their region cleared out.

If Wisconsin and Illinois had performed to seed (reach a Sweet 16), but MSU and OSU hadn't (lost a 7-10 game), that would have looked better from a narrative standpoint.
I more care about the narrative. I prefer when the league does well in the tourney so League bubble teams are more likely to get in future years, like Michigan this year. 

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1985 on: March 28, 2022, 03:47:22 AM »
Yeah, I think that's fair. They're a tough team, and their draw doesn't look too bad.

I'd say that Purdue has the highest ceiling of any B1G team--their ceiling is winning the whole damn thing. Unfortunately they've come up short every time they've played with something on the line; lost to Rutgers when they got their first #1 AP rank in school history, lost to Wisconsin when a win would basically seal a share of the B1G regular season (and then lost @MSU to follow it up and lose a shot at a shared title), and lost in the BTTCG to salvage the conference slate with a Big Ten Tournament championship.

I just don't have any trust that Purdue can play to their ceiling when the brightest of bright lights come on.
This was sadly prophetic.

Purdue only lost eight times all season and five of those were:
  • To Rutgers when ranked #1 for the first time.
  • To Wisconsin when a win would basically have sealed a share of the league.
  • To MSU when a win would have a shared title.
  • To Iowa for the B1G Tournament Championship.
  • To St. Peters when essentially gifted a Final Four on a silver platter.


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1986 on: March 28, 2022, 09:19:14 AM »
I more care about the narrative. I prefer when the league does well in the tourney so League bubble teams are more likely to get in future years, like Michigan this year.
The performance problem wasn't from the bubble teams, which is unfortunate from the narrative perspective

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1987 on: March 28, 2022, 01:21:44 PM »
This was sadly prophetic.

Purdue only lost eight times all season and five of those were:
  • To Rutgers when ranked #1 for the first time.
  • To Wisconsin when a win would basically have sealed a share of the league.
  • To MSU when a win would have a shared title.
  • To Iowa for the B1G Tournament Championship.
  • To St. Peters when essentially gifted a Final Four on a silver platter.
In the 3 banner era (Conference title, Conference tourney title, FF/NC), so going back to 1998, this Purdue team has to be the highest rated to not get one right?

Did that Wisconsin team that was #1 late in the year, but was stuck behind Greg Oden, and then got upset in the opening weekend win the BTT?  Otherwise that might be the answer

 

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