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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9590 on: September 25, 2020, 01:19:49 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2020, 01:15:24 PM
It was a cop who shot Jacob Blake. It was a kid who shot rioters.

Both shooters will get off. They were justified.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9591 on: September 25, 2020, 01:20:27 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
Both shooters were justified because they were the only ones armed, right?
Are you saying the victims of the shootings were not armed at all?

I may have missed something.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9592 on: September 25, 2020, 01:20:37 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
Both shooters were justified because they were the only ones armed, right?
Wrong, as usual.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9593 on: September 25, 2020, 01:21:28 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 25, 2020, 01:20:27 PM
Are you saying the victims of the shootings were not armed at all?

I may have missed something.
The shooters had guns.
The dead people did not.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9594 on: September 25, 2020, 01:24:43 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2020, 01:21:28 PM
The shooters had guns.
The dead people did not.
One can of course be armed with a deadly weapon that is not a gun.  I'm pretty sure one of the guys shot by that kid had a gun.  Blake apparently had a knife.

The term "armed" can mean with an ax, a knife, a hammer, a baseball bat, etc.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9595 on: September 25, 2020, 01:26:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 25, 2020, 01:24:43 PM
One can of course be armed with a deadly weapon that is not a gun.  I'm pretty sure one of the guys shot by that kid had a gun.  Blake apparently had a knife.

The term "armed" can mean with an ax, a knife, a hammer, a baseball bat, etc.
I'm pretty sure you should be sure if you're going to bother having the conversation.  

If all of those terms are "armed" and on equal footing, let's have a duel. I get a gun and you get one of those other weapons.  Then tell me it's fair, we're both armed.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9596 on: September 25, 2020, 01:29:08 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 25, 2020, 01:24:43 PM
The term "armed" can mean with an ax, a knife, a hammer, a baseball bat, etc.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9597 on: September 25, 2020, 01:31:39 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9598 on: September 25, 2020, 01:31:48 PM »
The legal meaning of the term "armed" is rather simple, a deadly weapon.  It has naught to do with armed "equally".

You can legally shoot a person coming at you with a knife or ax or other deadly weapon.  It's in the law.  The fact you have a superior weapon is irrelevant.  Justification for an LEO to discharge his gun is based on this.

Words have specific meanings, usually, and they are particularly important when dealing with legalities.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9599 on: September 25, 2020, 01:33:53 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 25, 2020, 01:24:43 PM
One can of course be armed with a deadly weapon that is not a gun.  I'm pretty sure one of the guys shot by that kid had a gun.  Blake apparently had a knife.

The term "armed" can mean with an ax, a knife, a hammer, a baseball bat, etc.
Don't be pretty sure here. Two of the rioters had handguns. One did not, but he attacked the kid with a skateboard to the head. I'd have shot him too, and also the two others who pointed at him. One of them shot and missed. The kid did not miss.

We all know the story about Blake. No need to rehash that one.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9600 on: September 25, 2020, 01:35:46 PM »
Badge, you wouldn't have shot the person with the skateboard because you wouldn't have been there.  A kid actively engaged in a dangerous situation and people are dead that wouldn't have been.


But I understand you're not allowed to acknowledge that fact, because you're on a certain side.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9601 on: September 25, 2020, 01:35:59 PM »
Quote from: ELA on September 25, 2020, 01:29:08 PM
Can of tuna
In that case, I've stockpiled more arms than Badge.

(And we were doing so well. Dammit)
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9602 on: September 25, 2020, 01:37:58 PM »
It's kind of amusing to contemplate a situation with two people, one armed with a gun and one with a knife.  The knife bearer threatens the other and approaches him with knife out and showing obvious intent, but you think the other person with a gun cannot fire because his weapon is superior?  So, he gets gutted and killed?

Armed is armed, the ability of the weapon to project force at a distance is irrelevant.  

Justification is based on this, armed or not and clear intent or not.  It's silly to pretend otherwise.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9603 on: September 25, 2020, 01:38:18 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2020, 09:45:28 AM
Thanks pal.

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I need to get a boat. Actually two.
Did you sell the Lake Michigan Scow?
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