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I heckle my wife about this.  It is exceptionally rare for a patient to request or know who the anesthesiologist is going to be leading up to the date of surgery.

Its quite strange to me given the critical role in the case.  She will usually get a request from a former patient or maybe a nurse or surgeon she works with.  I never considered the out of network possibility for the anes. 

It just needs to happen one time to you and cost you several hundred dollars to become aware of this

you pick an in network hospital and doctor but you just assume all the other doctors associated with your case will be in network

Not me, not me at all.

I did ask what he was using, "Propofol" he said.  I was out before they gave me the nerve block fortunately.  The had a small ultrasound gizmo I guess to find my nerve ganglia.  I was looking at it and asked if it was an ultrasound and that's the last think I remember.  I have had general twice in my life now.  It's pretty neat, it seems you pass out and  then wake up very quickly.  I had a sore throat from the intubation of course.

If you ever watch this surgery on YouTube, you'll see it's pretty aggressive.  They use this rotary cutter to remove damages tendon pieces, of which there was a lot.

The way the treat a labrum tear now is to detach the bicep and reattach it to bone (humerous).  Ha ha.  Then you don't aggravate the labrum all the time.  It's called a SLAP tear.

sounds like what I might require

I don't throw much with my left arm, but I have good range of motion reaching above my head

my strength is way down and my bicep has dropped to above the elbow in a small ball

Yeah, I interact with the medical business rarely.  It's not transparent at all.  I checked and my insurance site said X was in network, and then after the bill came they claimed they were not.  It was an office visit so it wasn't a big deal.  This used to happen to me all the time when I had kids.

It was a few dollars for me, but annoying. 

Imagine buying a car with this kind of "system".

Yep. Every healthcare system has its warts, but it's a little bit screwy when the "price" is ~$36K, the hospital/doctors will be paid ~$6K, and the cost to you is zero. (That last part is nice as a patient of course, especially for an elective surgery that only makes it easier for an old man to throw a ball lol.) 

It's like it's trying to be deliberately obfuscating... Which, of course, it is. That's the only way they can get away with charging everyone a different price depending on who they are and what level of insurance coverage they have.

Hey @FearlessF -- I got the sense a few weeks ago that you're not exactly a Bryson Dechambeau fan... What did you think of his performance at the US Open? 

Watched the Netflix Challenger documentary last night. Holy wow. If the engineers tell you we have this persistent problem the end result of which is catastrophic failure, and it's particularly bad during cold weather, and we strongly recommend you don't launch, then you don't bully the engineers into changing their minds.

It's not hard to see how group think got the better of them, but how many freaking times do people have to relearn this lesson!?!

And to think those astronauts and the teacher more than likely were conscious for the nearly three minute drop from 65K feet. Impossible to imagine, except to know that was a really, really long descent. That part's not in the documentary, but the evidence points to it.

It's not hard to see how group think got the better of them, but how many freaking times do people have to relearn this lesson!?!

That's humanity. We have difficulty learning from our predecessors bad decisions, so we have to make our own. Then our successors do the same. 

Isn't the quote something like "Those who get an F in history class are doomed to repeat it?"