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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8988 on: September 11, 2020, 04:12:18 PM »
not on the news
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8989 on: September 11, 2020, 04:25:22 PM »
not on the news
according to the news the only place they keep having out of control fires is California
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8990 on: September 11, 2020, 04:29:50 PM »
just got called by a pollster which was done by a machine

anyway I pushed the buttons that indicated I was a progressive young Black female

and I thought Trump was a very good president and I would vote for him

why you shouldnt trust polls
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8991 on: September 11, 2020, 04:39:21 PM »
oh thats right its time for the annual California burn fest

There are several other states with extensive forests that dont have this annual burn problem

what make California unique is it high winds just wondering
All of the Western States have forest fires--most annually. One of my Badger buddy's has a son who is a firejumper. He spends fire season every year based in Colorado and going where needed most in the Rockies. Then he spends the winter and spring in Wisconsin. A few months after I left active duty, my last division was sent to Montana to fight the fires there.

So it's all western states: Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico. California is the biggest "western" state by far (excluding Alaska), and among all states, only Alaska and Texas have more forest land. Also, Alaska and Texas are much wetter. California typically gets very little rainfall after April and until at least October. As you can see in the following graphic, California actually has a lower wildfire intensity over the last 30 years than several other western states.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/WildfiresUS.pdf

And yes, as Bwar pointed out, California has expensive housing that has recently been too close to fires.

Some good statistics here: https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-wildfires

However, half of California forest land is under federal management (this is true in most of the west), and many of the worst fires have been on federal land, so to the extent management is an issue, it's generally federal management that's the question.

Critically, over the last few decades, California has been getting hotter and drier--and this year we had the added fun of lightning during our summer months, something that is very rare here. It's almost as if the climate is changing.

So why do you hear about California? Because it's drier and hotter, but also because it's bigger.

As for the current fires, I think Oregon has the worst of it right now.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8992 on: September 11, 2020, 04:45:05 PM »
All of the Western States have forest fires--most annually. One of my Badger buddy's has a son who is a firejumper. He spends fire season every year based in Colorado and going where needed most in the Rockies. Then he spends the winter and spring in Wisconsin. A few months after I left active duty, my last division was sent to Montana to fight the fires there.

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As for the current fires, I think Oregon has the worst of it right now.
BTW I mentioned my BIL's house and farm in Oregon. We *think* it ended up safe from the fire. Obviously they haven't been back to check, but the fire expansion has been in the opposite direction. 

He is the one who apparently didn't get enough adrenaline as a Navy SEAL so up until about a year and half ago was a fireman, and in this time of year he would normally be out fighting wildfires. And they would travel all over the West doing so.

I'd also mention that one of our utilities (PG&E) has been known to be very lax on maintenance, such as clearing trees around power lines. They've been recently pissing off homeowners by cutting power and causing blackouts during times of high fire danger rather than clearing the brush which could ignite during high winds. They're not very well liked...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8994 on: September 11, 2020, 04:47:17 PM »
utility companies are evil
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8995 on: September 11, 2020, 04:48:24 PM »
Any idea why the Portland area is getting hit so hard right now? I thought their weather was closer to that of Seattle, and much more rainy than anyone inland behind a range of foothills...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8996 on: September 11, 2020, 04:51:15 PM »
Where I live PG&E is basically Public Enemy #1. After incinerating 50 houses and 8 people by not maintaining their gas pipelines, then likely causing the Camp Fire by not maintaining power lines, which killed 85 people and wiped the city of Paradise off the map, it's hard to find much sympathy for PG&E around here. On the other hand, people want their lights to turn on when they flick the switch.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8997 on: September 11, 2020, 04:53:07 PM »
the people should unite cities and counties, go to wind and solar power
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8998 on: September 11, 2020, 04:59:16 PM »
Any idea why the Portland area is getting hit so hard right now? I thought their weather was closer to that of Seattle, and much more rainy than anyone inland behind a range of foothills...
It's been hotter, drier, and windier than normal.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8999 on: September 11, 2020, 05:00:49 PM »
I Regret To Inform You That The States On Fire Are Not As Important As Pennsylvania And Wisconsin This Year

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9000 on: September 11, 2020, 05:01:02 PM »
the people should unite cities and counties, go to wind and solar power
Many cities and counties have done just that, but the power lines are still used to distribute it. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #9001 on: September 11, 2020, 05:02:48 PM »
it's expensive to build new lines, but it's an investment

many don't want to invest in the future long term
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