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Witnesses claimed 4o to 50 shots, which MIGHT be 15 from one mag.  They get excited about gun fire.  And some shots were coming the other way.

I also wonder if they didn't have a great sense of when one person stopped shooting and the cops started. 

Olympia is less left-leaning than it could be, but it ain't a part of the world where many folks would have a clue the difference in such things. 

My vote means nothing.  Statistically nothing, nada, technically perhaps something so immeasurably tiny that it may as well be nothing.  I could vote for a million years and not sway a national election.

I ain't voting for either of these two "candidates", take that to the bank.

Bwar is right about my vote and his, here in California. California's electoral college votes will go to Biden.

Your vote is statistically unlikely to mean anything, but that one time that it does, it will. Like those 537 people in Florida. And the likelihood that a single vote in Georgia matters for the outcome of this presidential election is much higher than a vote in California. It also gets back to our discussion of what statistics mean: all the statistics tell you is the likely outcome, not the actual outcome.

It also goes to what We the People means. If your overall view is that you have no say in the election of your elected representatives, or that whatever happens in a particular election makes no difference to what happens to the nation, what is the point of our Constitution? Is it an opiate of the masses? Did we really just exchange the English monarchy for a different form of oligarchy, in which our corporate overlords rule without our input?

Your decision not to vote for either presidential candidate is yours to make, but it does matter. 

That is bad, dumb and silly on his part. I hope he does not double down and make it a thing, but instead admits a mistake with grace.

Meh. Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb. So Biden is at least half right.

Well, Edison did patent a version of the light bulb.

A black inventor later made it much more commercially viable through extremely important improvements, though. And had patents on his improvements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-edison-invented-light-bulb-racial-justice-history-latimer-a9705716.html

So, yeah, we'll call it a gaffe. Should have said that better.

The chances my single vote is decisive are so remote I might as well buy lottery tickets.  Come on, it'll never happen.  If it does, I'll apologize, but I ain't votin' for either of these two buckos.

I can't do it.  I would much rather stay home and not vote at all.

A lot of things in life are not worth my time and effort, and for me, voting makes that list.

I get it. Rational ignorance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_ignorance

How much worth is there for you to expend the time and effort to argue with us about not voting? 

I derive some entertainment value by exchanging ideas here.  I do not by voting.

Y'all go vote, and proudly wear your I VOTED sticker, it's fine with me.  If everyone thought as I did, we'd be in a helluva mess for any number of reasons.

Well that's no way to get yourself a job in Badge's cabinet...

Interestingly, when we dine out, I pick something quickly.  The wife used to dawdle over the menu fretting about whether she wanted X or Y.  She sorta got the message.

Have your money in hand and your order in mind.

Pick something off the menu, anything, avoid what you know you don't like, and just pick whatever strikes your fancy.  Get'er done.  Stop anguishing over whether you slightly prefer A over B.

and just pick whatever strikes your fancy.  Get'er done.  Stop anguishing over whether you slightly prefer A over B.

Remember that when you're buying tires