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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8274 on: September 04, 2020, 07:55:09 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 04, 2020, 06:22:50 AM
For the life of me I don't understand why you seem so intent on defending this guy, even as you say you don't like him and wouldn't vote for him.  In any event, the article is not completely speculative.  Using unnamed sources isn't a particularly controversial - the Watergate reporting was based on unnamed sources.  The reason they are unnamed is because they work in the government and if they were named they would be fired. 
your opinion


this is just what the author wants the reader to think but it could also just be made up - nobody knows

based on how the authors other allegations have fared Im guessing its the later 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8275 on: September 04, 2020, 08:12:23 AM »
For what it's worth it's been confirmed by various other news agencies
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8276 on: September 04, 2020, 08:54:06 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 04, 2020, 08:12:23 AM
For what it's worth it's been confirmed by various other news agencies
still with unnamed sources

they just picked up the story they didnt confirm it
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8277 on: September 04, 2020, 08:59:25 AM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8278 on: September 04, 2020, 09:04:51 AM »
damn, stumbled into the political thread again
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8279 on: September 04, 2020, 09:11:09 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 04, 2020, 09:04:51 AM
damn, stumbled into the political thread again
Sucker!
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8280 on: September 04, 2020, 09:11:27 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 04, 2020, 06:22:50 AM
For the life of me I don't understand why you seem so intent on defending this guy, even as you say you don't like him and wouldn't vote for him.  In any event, the article is not completely speculative.  Using unnamed sources isn't a particularly controversial - the Watergate reporting was based on unnamed sources.  The reason they are unnamed is because they work in the government and if they were named they would be fired. 
I'm sorry, but if a person cannot allow their name to be used, we should not be accepting their story. It comes down to an issue of credibility. Who is this mystery man/men? What are their allegiances?  If they are not known, the accused (POTUS) cannot possibly defend himself because he has no way to countering their opinions. 

The other thing about this is, why is this coming out now? This supposedly happened 2 years ago and this is the first we have heard of it, 2 months before the election? Forgive me if I believe this smells funny.  

Look, I don't care for Trump the person, either. However, I do agree many many of the things he has done. I also didn't care for Obama. But I would never accept a negative story about him where the source could not or would not be identified. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8281 on: September 04, 2020, 09:15:52 AM »
Well if it is accurate then prolly a politician
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8282 on: September 04, 2020, 09:17:56 AM »
Trump may have said something indefensible and ridiculous, film at 11.

I won't take umbrage at comments by a person I cannot respect.



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8283 on: September 04, 2020, 09:21:08 AM »

So get mad at the people you like :017:
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8284 on: September 04, 2020, 09:21:37 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 04, 2020, 09:11:27 AM
I'm sorry, but if a person cannot allow their name to be used, we should not be accepting their story. It comes down to an issue of credibility. Who is this mystery man/men? What are their allegiances?  If they are not known, the accused (POTUS) cannot possibly defend himself because he has no way to countering their opinions.

The other thing about this is, why is this coming out now? This supposedly happened 2 years ago and this is the first we have heard of it, 2 months before the election? Forgive me if I believe this smells funny. 

Look, I don't care for Trump the person, either. However, I do agree many many of the things he has done. I also didn't care for Obama. But I would never accept a negative story about him where the source could not or would not be identified.
yep unless something creditable breaks about this hit piece my comments are done concerning this

its a waste of time
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8285 on: September 04, 2020, 09:22:19 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on September 04, 2020, 05:48:24 AM
For the record, claiming one “anonymous source” is no different or less ridiculous than claiming 50.

As far as I’m concerned, and I know many other people feel this way, if you can’t cite information with people willing to back it up then don’t even bother publishing it. 


I mean, people are willing to back it up, they're not willing to put their name on it. 

Do you feel that if 1-2 people said it, and a few more backed them up, you'd strongly believe it? Or would you dig in on those named people and ask why they're speaking up. Because when push comes to shove, they're not going to be perfect, both because the lord makes no perfect people, and when you share other people's misdeeds, that'll be taken as a fault even if done for upstanding reasons. (The sets aside the perfectly rational reason of not wanting one's name out there in that strangers will threaten to murder them or do other manner of gross things)

It's an interesting exercise in where and how we use our skepticism. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8286 on: September 04, 2020, 09:27:21 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 04, 2020, 09:11:27 AM
I'm sorry, but if a person cannot allow their name to be used, we should not be accepting their story. It comes down to an issue of credibility. Who is this mystery man/men? What are their allegiances?  If they are not known, the accused (POTUS) cannot possibly defend himself because he has no way to countering their opinions.
Does this mean we should accept almost none of the reporting on the Big Ten's coronavirus response? Most of that is not from named sources. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8287 on: September 04, 2020, 09:29:02 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on September 04, 2020, 09:21:08 AM
So get mad at the people you like :017:
Every so often of course, some I did respect says something of this general ilk that reveals something of their inner self, and I take that and act accordingly.

I've had people come back later and try and explain and apologize.  Well, OK, but apparently you thought it enough to vocalize it once, and you weren't drunk.

I have heard Trump say so many reprehensible things, to me, I lost whatever modicum of respect I might once have had (never much, he didn't matter to me).

Whatever he says now might merit a Spockian rise of an eyebrow.
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