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It won't be a landslide in either direction.  Gonna be close just like the last time.

I'll be voting 3rd party again because I loathe the two party system, I loathe the two party machines, and I disagree with a large amount in both party platform agendas.

It won't be a landslide in either direction.  Gonna be close just like the last time.

I'll be voting 3rd party again because I loathe the two party system, I loathe the two party machines, and I disagree with a large amount in both party platform agendas.

I wish we had a system that didn't make two parties an inevitability. But do to it requires going more proportional, which doesn't happen much here. 

I wish we had a system that didn't make two parties an inevitability. But do to it requires going more proportional, which doesn't happen much here.

well the dems are doing their part to erase the two party system

they have moved so far left its forcing voters to pick a 3rd party which will hurt the dems

the dems have lost sight of main stream America and its core beliefs

The republicans have not changed their message and good or bad their base will remain

for the dems to win this one they are going to have to get more conservative quick and thats not likely

As I said, words, and then nothing.  It was never a big goal I reckon.

Even in 2009-2010 when he basically had Congress on his side.  Not a big goal, says it all.  What were his big goals anyway?

They must have been really high priorities when one considers all the verbiage attached to gun control.

Obama shot his bolt in getting ObamaCare through Congress.  He spent all his political capital to achieve a goal that the Democrats had had for almost a hundred years.  The GOP took over the House after the 2010 mid-terms.  The GOP took over statehouses they hadn't held in decades, had over 30 governors in office.  It was a red wave.
Obama was left to spend his next 6 years nibbling at the margins of what he would have liked to accomplish.
Still, for the Democrats, it might have been worth it.  The AHCA (AHA?) greatly shaped the political battlefield over medical care, and the battle seems to be playing out in Democrats' favor.  Republicans failed in their "solemn" promise to repeal and replace it.  All they've done is defund it, adding to the national debt.

It won't be a landslide in either direction.  Gonna be close just like the last time.

I'll be voting 3rd party again because I loathe the two party system, I loathe the two party machines, and I disagree with a large amount in both party platform agendas.

What?  You disagree with the GOP platform: "We support the Great Man's agenda"?  What part of that do you not like?
I wish that there were party machines again.  Just like I wish that the CFB national championship were still determined by bowl pairings made by old men in funny jackets in smoke-filled rooms.

The two parties now are mere shells of what they once were.  Vessels to be captured and weaponized by whatever buccaneer politician can be the most successful demagogue (crowd-haranguer) during primary season.  They don't pick the candidates and they don't write serious platforms.  They don't drive the agenda in Congress.  They are just banners for the buccaneers to wave in order to rouse the faithful.

What?  You disagree with the GOP platform: "We support the Great Man's agenda"?  What part of that do you not like?
I wish that there were party machines again.  Just like I wish that the CFB national championship were still determined by bowl pairings made by old men in funny jackets in smoke-filled rooms.

The two parties now are mere shells of what they once were.  Vessels to be captured and weaponized by whatever buccaneer politician can be the most successful demagogue (crowd-haranguer) during primary season.  They don't pick the candidates and they don't write serious platforms.  They don't drive the agenda in Congress.  They are just banners for the buccaneers to wave in order to rouse the faithful.

I'll agree that the Republican party machine lost its wheels and then Trump highjacked it.

But the Democratic machine is in full force.  It was powerful enough to railroad Bernie (and everyone else) to force Hillary into the prime position, and it ram-rodded Biden this go-round.  The Democratic voters are fractured, but the machine is in full force and still quite obviously driving.  Their real problem is that their platform has become not much more than "whatever the Republicans aren't" which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's a defensive position that doesn't generate much confidence or heartfelt support.

The Republicans have changed their message.  Drastically.  Draw a Venn diagram of Reagan's message of optimism and Trump's message of chaos and destruction and you won't see much overlap.
Reagan's base did not include neo-Nazis, white-supremacists, skinheads, shadowy militia groups, and conspiracy theorists.  Reagan reached across the aisle and got tremendous support from Democrat voters and from "boll-weevil" Democrats in Congress.

Was gonna say something like a more tempered version of this.