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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7070 on: August 27, 2020, 11:58:16 AM »
Yes, you are wrong.

Try paying attention to my posts, particularly to those from this morning. The cops did all you are suggesting, and MORE.
Perfect, then they're poor cops.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7071 on: August 27, 2020, 11:58:55 AM »
This sounds like shitty posting to me.

The guy was hopped up on drugs. Have you ever tried to subdue a meth head? It was two cops, by the way.
Why was he on meth?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7072 on: August 27, 2020, 11:59:01 AM »
So, being born in 1971, I'm probably very close to the peak of this lead-induced malady?

Suddenly a lot more makes sense... :)

LOL... 

Bear in mind that for this theory, it also depends where you grew up. I personally don't know your story, utee, but there's a big difference between the lead in soil content growing up say in downtown Chicago vs growing up on a farm in Kansas, due to the amount of emissions localized.

But yeah, I was born in '78 in Oak Park, IL, which is one of the nearest suburbs to the city limits of Chicago. At a young age we moved to farther western suburbs. So anything that goes wrong in my life, I blame lead.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7073 on: August 27, 2020, 12:03:03 PM »
Would this discussion be taking place if the guy that was shot was white?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7074 on: August 27, 2020, 12:04:09 PM »
My closest Blue Life told me last night that "there better have been a gun," or that cop murdered him. He laid the whole situation squarely at the feet of the police. Even if there was a gun in the car, the cops were "just stupid."

His is just one opinion, but it's not my left leaning, skeptical opinion. It's one from a guy whose spent his life in blue, who has served a ton of warrants, both those that came easy, and those where they went in ready for a fight, who has had his hand on the trigger and thought he was going to have to pull it, and who has put murderers behind bars. Like most cops, he has a dimmer view of humanity than I do, and he knows there are a lot of dangerous, bad people on the streets. And he thinks society is being unfair to cops right now; he plans to take his retirement as soon as he can because he's sick of it. 

He thinks the pair of cops were stupid, and that the cop who pulled the trigger was in the wrong--and not unless there was a gun in the car, unless the cop saw the gun in the car, or the victim said he was getting it.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7075 on: August 27, 2020, 12:04:53 PM »
Why was he on meth?


He mostly likely got when he left bible study that morning while he was on his way to perform charitable work at the local food pantry. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7076 on: August 27, 2020, 12:06:58 PM »
He mostly likely got when he left bible study that morning while he was on his way to perform charitable work at the local food pantry.
You're making my point for me, so thanks.  

on drugs -> bad person -> shot in the back -> deserved it


Right?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7077 on: August 27, 2020, 12:09:25 PM »
You're making my point for me, so thanks. 

on drugs -> bad person -> shot in the back -> deserved it


Right?
Wanted on a warrant, physically resisted arrest, went for a weapon in his car. All three things led up to the result. Had he complied with the lawful orders of the police, he would not have been shot. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7078 on: August 27, 2020, 12:10:03 PM »
My closest Blue Life told me last night that "there better have been a gun," or that cop murdered him. He laid the whole situation squarely at the feet of the police. Even if there was a gun in the car, the cops were "just stupid."

His is just one opinion, but it's not my left leaning, skeptical opinion. It's one from a guy whose spent his life in blue, who has served a ton of warrants, both those that came easy, and those where they went in ready for a fight, who has had his hand on the trigger and thought he was going to have to pull it, and who has put murderers behind bars. Like most cops, he has a dimmer view of humanity than I do, and he knows there are a lot of dangerous, bad people on the streets. And he thinks society is being unfair to cops right now; he plans to take his retirement as soon as he can because he's sick of it.

He thinks the pair of cops were stupid, and that the cop who pulled the trigger was in the wrong--and not unless there was a gun in the car, unless the cop saw the gun in the car, or the victim said he was getting it.
The "victim" DID say he was getting it. This "victim" won't have any more victims in his future. That's one positive here.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7079 on: August 27, 2020, 12:10:19 PM »
Would this discussion be taking place if the guy that was shot was white?
1) We should be, because police misconduct--particularly lethal misconduct--should be addressed.

But, and this is the bigger point:

2) Is there a centuries-long history of discrimination against white people in this country because of nothing other than the color of their skin?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7080 on: August 27, 2020, 12:10:49 PM »
Why was he on meth?


Because that's what we all do when we have 3 kids in the car.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7081 on: August 27, 2020, 12:15:40 PM »
LOL...

Bear in mind that for this theory, it also depends where you grew up. I personally don't know your story, utee, but there's a big difference between the lead in soil content growing up say in downtown Chicago vs growing up on a farm in Kansas, due to the amount of emissions localized.

But yeah, I was born in '78 in Oak Park, IL, which is one of the nearest suburbs to the city limits of Chicago. At a young age we moved to farther western suburbs. So anything that goes wrong in my life, I blame lead.
Born and raised in Austin, Texas. :)

I lived there for the first forty years of my life, until I'd finally had enough of the craziness and moved to a suburb.

Nah just kidding, I moved to the suburbs because I was raising a family and could get a hell of a lot more for my money by going further out.  Plus I was already working from home about 50% of the time and I'm no further from the office.  It did increase the commute time for my i s c & a aggie wife, but she's the one that wanted to move this far out, I'd have been fine way way closer but she wanted the big house with the pool and all that, so here we are.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7082 on: August 27, 2020, 12:16:33 PM »
1) We should be, because police misconduct--particularly lethal misconduct--should be addressed.

But, and this is the bigger point:

2) Is there a centuries-long history of discrimination against white people in this country because of nothing other than the color of their skin?
Yes, there has been, and it's slowly changing - probably starting with my generation of people. It's not like it used to be.

The segregation and suppression started by the Roosevelt administration has been going away since the early 1980's.

Education is the key, but we need to build mutual trust. They don't trust those of us who are trying to help, and there are many of us. I don't know how to fix that.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7083 on: August 27, 2020, 12:19:53 PM »
The "victim" DID say he was getting it. This "victim" won't have any more victims in his future. That's one positive here.
Where are you getting that? Seriously--even Fox News isn't reporting this.

 

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