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longhorn320

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7042 on: August 27, 2020, 10:31:14 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 27, 2020, 09:22:03 AM
It's fine to try and avoid bias and prejudice, but you do it still, and so does everyone else who has ever breathed.
Some of the most racist speech I see on TV comes from Black people

Hell in some universities there even a move to have all black dorms

Look on the channel guide on your cable system and you'll see a channel named BET which is Black Entertainment Television

what if there was a WET no way that would be allowed and it shouldnt be

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7043 on: August 27, 2020, 10:34:42 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 27, 2020, 10:26:25 AM
Fairly certain locking someone in a cage fits the definition. Try locking some random woman in your basement and see if people think it's violent.
thats just plain bull dookey MS
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7044 on: August 27, 2020, 10:35:10 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 27, 2020, 10:26:25 AM
Fairly certain locking someone in a cage fits the definition. Try locking some random woman in your basement and see if people think it's violent.
wouldn't have to be a random woman, could be a wife or an ex-wife or an ex-GF
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7045 on: August 27, 2020, 10:37:40 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 27, 2020, 10:35:10 AM
wouldn't have to be a random woman, could be a wife or an ex-wife or an ex-GF
hey now youre getting into my personal life watch it
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7046 on: August 27, 2020, 10:38:00 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 27, 2020, 10:34:42 AM
thats just plain bull dookey MS
I mean come on. Locking people on cages is violent. Shooting them is violent. Handcuffing them is violent. Putting a gun at them is violent. We can excuse or justify violence, but framing anything the government does as non-violent just leads to justifying a lot of stuff that probably can't be justified. It's certainly contributed to our huge prison population.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7047 on: August 27, 2020, 10:41:23 AM »
I am pretty sure most English speaking people would disagree with your characterization of the term "violent" as comprising locking someone up.

But, whatever.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7048 on: August 27, 2020, 10:42:19 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 27, 2020, 10:38:00 AM
I mean come on. Locking people on cages is violent. Shooting them is violent. Handcuffing them is violent. Putting a gun at them is violent. We can excuse or justify violence, but framing anything the government does as non-violent just leads to justifying a lot of stuff that probably can't be justified. It's certainly contributed to our huge prison population.
MS you were born too late
You should have been around in the 60s with all the beautiful people
you'd fit right in
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7049 on: August 27, 2020, 10:43:37 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 27, 2020, 10:41:23 AM
I am pretty sure most English speaking people would disagree with your characterization of the term "violent" as comprising locking someone up.

But, whatever.
Lynchings used to be popular and the lynchers probably didn't consider them violent either.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7050 on: August 27, 2020, 10:44:23 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 27, 2020, 10:42:19 AM
MS you were born too late
You should have been around in the 60s with all the beautiful people
you'd fit right in
Man i know - my music tastes steer a lot towards then too.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7051 on: August 27, 2020, 10:45:58 AM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on August 26, 2020, 07:35:28 PM
See, we're on different sides of the aisle, but we agree: we need to do more to address systemic racism.

There is--right now--an investigation into the shooting and whether it was justified. I'm not an expert on that, but as a layperson, it sure looks bad for the police. If he was saying threatening things--like he was going for his gun--then it's almost certainly justified. If he was saying, "F-this, I'm out of here" then it's feels a lot less justified--even if he was resisting lawful arrest. Resisting arrest is not a valid reason to impose the deadly force. Putting someone's life in immediate jeopardy is.

And getting back to what I said so many pages back, if he was threatening to go get a gun from his car why the heck didn't they do more to stop him, like maneuvering in front of him, for example?

The investigation will tell us more when it is complete.
The tazed him four times. They had him on the ground and he escaped. The officer grabbed him by the shirt as he was going into his car. He was repeatedly told to stand down. He was told to drop his knife.

There was a loaded gun under his seat. (and the three kids in the car blah blah blah)

What would YOU have done? Stand there and get shot?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7052 on: August 27, 2020, 10:46:17 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 27, 2020, 10:44:23 AM
Man i know - my music tastes steer a lot towards then too.
here you are



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJgwGxY37OE
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7053 on: August 27, 2020, 10:51:17 AM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7054 on: August 27, 2020, 10:51:55 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2020, 10:45:58 AM
The tazed him four times. They had him on the ground and he escaped. The officer grabbed him by the shirt as he was going into his car. He was repeatedly told to stand down. He was told to drop his knife.

There was a loaded gun under his seat. (and the three kids in the car blah blah blah)

What would YOU have done? Stand there and get shot?
Was there a gun? The only thing I've seen mentioned was a knife
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7055 on: August 27, 2020, 10:52:59 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 27, 2020, 08:22:56 AM
Violent crime rates are down significantly since 1993 or so, significantly, maybe due to Biden's crime bill.

So, I'd opine perhaps history shows it has worked out that way.

My dad, incidentally, worked with prison populations to set up educational programs for them.  I was shocked at about age 10 or so to learn recidivism rates were over 70%.  He believed that very few prisoners really took advantage of the opportunities provided to develop a skill or get a GED.

His job also changed his views on race significantly to the point I avoided the topic like the plague around him.
I don't think he remembers that.
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