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I don't know if it's just my driving style, but automatics never seem to do what I want them to do.

And as the mileage goes up, they seem to get increasingly "sloppy" to me. <50K miles, they're fine. As you start getting beyond that, they seem to get loose. Downshifts seem to lag when you step on it.

Maybe it's just the cars I've driven. The Flex seems to be doing this, just like other autos I've driven in the past and put on significant miles (Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sequoia). The wife's Lexus doesn't have that many miles yet, so we'll see if it does better as it ages. So far it seems pretty solid.

I'm starting to think it is your driving "style"

Yeah, I had to drive to my lawyer's place in Canton, GA, suburbia the whole way, 40 miles from me.

First time I had driven since surgery, my arm feels almost as good as it did presurgery, still have stitches.

I was surprised how heavy the traffic was.

These urban dwellers are mostly in the north east area

Here in Texas you gotta have a car

I really dont think the desire to drive a car will be replaced the ability to order a ride when needed

That's because you're picturing a normal ride.  
When the vehicle internal layouts are altered and you're lounging on a love-seat instead of a car chair, you may change your tune.

The car's layout is what it is because there's a driver who shouldn't be distracted.  Remove that requisite and you've got all that cubic feet to play with and make as comfy and distraction-rich as you wish.

That's because you're picturing a normal ride. 
When the vehicle internal layouts are altered and you're lounging on a love-seat instead of a car chair, you may change your tune.

The car's layout is what it is because there's a driver who shouldn't be distracted.  Remove that requisite and you've got all that cubic feet to play with and make as comfy and distraction-rich as you wish.

Thats all fine and good but I and a lot of others find enjoyment out of driving

Horses are no longer as important as they were but I still like riding one

Thats all fine and good but I and a lot of others find enjoyment out of driving

Horses are no longer as important as they were but I still like riding one

Yeah, but I also realize that when we actually get to roads full of reliable Level 5 automation vehicles, I'll be MUCH safer than driving myself. And I'm part of the 90% of Americans who believe they are above-average drivers, so I think I'm pretty good behind the wheel. But I'm not as good as a computer that NEVER has a lapse of attention [assuming it's not Windows-based]. 

Plus... I drink. I want a car that I can go to a brewery, tell it "drive me home", be asleep and well above 0.08 in the front left seat, and have no worries about any legal consequences for doing so. 

Now, I *do* enjoy driving. I really enjoy performance driving. I'd be the type that would get a dedicated track car to have fun as a hobby, and let my fully autonomous truck tow it to and from the racetrack. I see absolutely no conflict between these ideas.

I'm really surprised at the number of horses that folks keep around as pets or hobbies.

I'm sure some folks are surprised at the amount of idiots that play golf

Grabbed an hour to hit the driving range this morning. 

Holy crap I need more practice. And I need to get back into shape. When I played a month ago, I just hit a half a bucket of warmup balls to make sure I remembered how to swing a club, and then played a full round. I didn't get fatigued because of the time between shots. But by the end of a medium bucket of balls with swing after swing, it was taking its toll. Towards the end of the bucket I wasn't getting any value out of the practice because I was fighting my body. When did I get old?

On the bright side, I'm getting closer to the point where I can make consistent contact with my 4 wood. I think the shaft is wrong, though, I've got a consistent fade that I'm not seeing in any of my irons. When I get back into practice and recover my swing, I think I need to see a clubfitter for a driver/FW fitting and get something that fits my body better. 

So... Back to your point, I'm basically saying that it's about to spend a whole bunch of time and money to get good at a meaningless game purely to waste time ;-) 

well at my age I wont live to see the day youre talking about and thats fine with me

In 1915 there were 26,000,000 horses in the US

Today there are 3,000,000

shame