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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6188 on: August 09, 2020, 11:53:30 AM »
Yes. A popular election means candidates have an incentive to campaign there, because they would both be competing for votes.
It's a matter of resources. In any election, only a certain percentage are truly up for grab . Most voters won't diverge from their party. Others are reliable by party but susceptible to GOTV campaigns and may not vote in every election. Some are truly independents and vote for the better candidate.

The Los Angeles Metropolitan area has more swayable voters than the entire population of Montana.

Is a candidate going to spend much effort trying to sway 50-100K Montanans? Or 1-2 million Angelenos? And then spend a bunch of time in WY, UT, ND, etc as well? All with different local issues, different television networks, etc? 

They have limited campaign funds , and even more limited time. It's going to be spent where it has the biggest chance of moving large numbers. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6189 on: August 09, 2020, 11:53:56 AM »
It is the New Yorks and Californias that want to eliminate the electoral college, not the Idahos and Montanas. Stop trying to put a charitable spin on your own selfish desires. If it actually did help the Idahos and Montanas on the National scene, then the White Left would be actively campaigning against eradicating the electoral college, instead of braying about how it should be eliminated.
You clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6190 on: August 09, 2020, 11:55:09 AM »
Bulldog Lives Matter ...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6191 on: August 09, 2020, 11:55:41 AM »
That makes two of us. 
You clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.

That makes two of us. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6192 on: August 09, 2020, 11:58:31 AM »
It's a matter of resources. In any election, only a certain percentage are truly up for grab . Most voters won't diverge from their party. Others are reliable by party but susceptible to GOTV campaigns and may not vote in every election. Some are truly independents and vote for the better candidate.

The Los Angeles Metropolitan area has more swayable voters than the entire population of Montana.

Is a candidate going to spend much effort trying to sway 50-100K Montanans? Or 1-2 million Angelenos? And then spend a bunch of time in WY, UT, ND, etc as well? All with different local issues, different television networks, etc?

They have limited campaign funds , and even more limited time. It's going to be spent where it has the biggest chance of moving large numbers.
Oh I quite agree they would spend more time in larger population centers. But right now there is zero incentive to spend any time in Montana, while under a popular vote there is a greater than zero incentive. Also, for Christ's sake there should be incentive for the parties to campaign in California. Only in America can we ignore a huge swathe of the population.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6193 on: August 09, 2020, 11:59:23 AM »
Bulldog Lives Matter ...

Bureau of Land Management.

It was kind of funny on political forums around these parts, when the other BLM popped up. There were many a western White liberal who initially had no idea that Black Lives Matter also used the same acronym. So they'd be all like "how in the Hell did you take the situation in Ferguson Missouri, and turn it into a rant about public lands out west? You people have a one track mind!"
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6194 on: August 09, 2020, 12:00:08 PM »
That makes two of us.
That makes two of us.
Go yell it to the mountain on how your vote should count double. Affirmative action in practice.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6195 on: August 09, 2020, 12:08:56 PM »
Since you quoted me twice, it would have made a lot more sense for you to have suggested that I yell it into Echo Canyon. 

C'mon man, step up your game. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6196 on: August 09, 2020, 01:38:45 PM »
It is the New Yorks and Californias that want to eliminate the electoral college, not the Idahos and Montanas. Stop trying to put a charitable spin on your own selfish desires. If it actually did help the Idahos and Montanas on the National scene, then the White Left would be actively campaigning against eradicating the electoral college, instead of braying about how it should be eliminated.
California is a homeless, rat-infested shithole. 27% of the countries homeless live in California. No thanks. Joe Rogan GTFO and Elon Musk/Tesla is next to GTFO. New York City is only nice if you can afford to stay in Manhattan, and the real estate sale prices/rental prices in Manhattan are the highest in the country. There are some neighborhoods in Manhattan that will cost you $10,000 sq/ft. That is insane. Only rich people can afford to live there. And if you aren't rich and you live in Manhattan, you are living in an apartment with 3-4 roomates and you're sharing a bedroom with one of them and your rent is still $6,500 a month for an old shoebox.

The "Left" (and I don't really even consider establishment dems left) has basically ruined both of those places.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6197 on: August 09, 2020, 01:44:35 PM »
Shrug. I'm fine with people who are thrifty and live within their means. When someone's thrift causes offense, less OK with that, but they have to live with the social consequences.

But if as you said later in the thread, non-cheap people are there to be taken advantage of, then I'm fine with cheap people. Some folks fight for their money and don't care what others think. It's a way to be.
You are missing the point entirely. Someone living within their means is commendable and what everyone should do. However, a lot of stupid people want everything under the sun and shit they can't afford and then expect to get a Benz or BMW for the price of a Kia and act like morons when you tell them they can't afford what they are asking for.

Who said anything about taking advantage of anyone? Non-cheap people are not there to be taken advantage of. They are there to do business with, and make money with.

You are conflating a bunch of shit, and misinterpreting completely what I was saying.

Fight for your money. That's great. But don't be one of those stupid poor, cheap dumbasses that thinks they can get a Benz or BMW for the price of a Kia. Can't fix stupid.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6198 on: August 09, 2020, 01:46:01 PM »
and what party is responsible for this
both parties.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6199 on: August 09, 2020, 01:49:19 PM »
California is a homeless, rat-infested shithole. 27% of the countries homeless live in California. No thanks. Joe Rogan GTFO and Elon Musk/Tesla is next to GTFO. New York City is only nice if you can afford to stay in Manhattan, and the real estate sale prices/rental prices in Manhattan are the highest in the country. There are some neighborhoods in Manhattan that will cost you $10,000 sq/ft. That is insane. Only rich people can afford to live there. And if you aren't rich and you live in Manhattan, you are living in an apartment with 3-4 roomates and you're sharing a bedroom with one of them and your rent is still $6,500 a month for an old shoebox.

The "Left" (and I don't really even consider establishment dems left) has basically ruined both of those places.
Really? I'm hardly a new York expert but when I went there a couple years ago Brooklyn was easily the place to be.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6200 on: August 09, 2020, 01:53:31 PM »
Really? I'm hardly a new York expert but when I went there a couple years ago Brooklyn was easily the place to be.
I am going to Brooklyn in under 2 weeks lol. I'm leaving the 20th actually. Brooklyn has some nice gentrified areas- one of which I am going to. It's still very expensive there, but considerably cheaper than Manhattan, and while the newly rebuilt gentrified areas are very clean and nice, there are still plenty of areas in Brooklyn that aren't exactly nice and you wouldn't want to wonder into late at night.

Manhattan on the other hand is just on another level. I love it. Just stupid expensive.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6201 on: August 09, 2020, 02:04:02 PM »
both parties.
damn you had a 50/50 chance and got it wrong
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