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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4984 on: July 17, 2020, 08:25:11 AM »
Yes, it's bad here. 2 more weeks. Bye!!

(The Center Square) – Even though Illinois is facing a budget shortfall in the fiscal year that began this month, a budgetary analyst said the real pain will come when the state's federal loans come due the year after.
 
 The current 2021 fiscal year is projected to be billions of dollars short, but lawmakers plan to borrow $5 billion from the Federal Reserve Bank’s Municipal Liquidity Facility to cover costs.
 
 Although Illinois Comptroller Susana Mendoza warned that the state “may not make it through” the current year without some sort of untethered state aid, others said the crunch will come once the borrowing done in the current year comes due in tandem with a pension tab that will reflect COVID-19 market losses.
 
 “The unpaid bills at the end of this year are going to remain about the same as what they were last year, which was $8.49 billion,” said Ralph Martire, executive director of the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability. “But then there’s that $5 billion in debt that the state incurred this year that it’s using as ‘revenue’ this year that won’t be there next year. Next year will start with a revenue shortfall of over $13 billion.” 
 
 The state’s unemployment insurance trust fund, for instance, is expected to borrow $3.8 billion from the federal government. That money is due one year from issuance. The state had borrowed to replenish its unemployment trust fund in 2010 and was required to pay it off using bond issuances. Some of those took six years to pay off. 
 
 Even before the pandemic, Illinois’ pensions were not fully funded to meet the estimated costs of current and future payouts, according to a report from the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability. 
 
 The report said that the total debt, referred to as unfunded liability, had gone up $3.6 billion in the fiscal year that ended last July to $137.2 billion from $133.5 billion the year before. Illinois devotes more of its budget to pension payments than any other state.
 
 Martire advocates for a restructuring of the debt that would require the state to pay more upfront but keep a flat rate that would last through the life of a pension obligation bond. Others recommend a constitutional amendment to allow for a renegotiation of pensioner contracts that would allow for immediate relief. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4985 on: July 17, 2020, 08:25:15 AM »
A happy day was when my kids told me not to send them any more money in he mail ...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4986 on: July 17, 2020, 08:29:21 AM »
Every state in struggling with lost revenue, obviously IL is ill particularly.

I don't know how they can recover practicably.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4987 on: July 17, 2020, 08:31:03 AM »
Every state in struggling with lost revenue, obviously IL is ill particularly.

I don't know how they can recover practicably.
I'm no longer part of their solution.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4988 on: July 17, 2020, 08:34:00 AM »
We all may be part of their "solution" unless you're revoking your US citizenship.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4989 on: July 17, 2020, 08:47:00 AM »
I can't see well-run states say "Sure, we'll subject our residents to more taxes to help Illinois, even though they've screwed up for 50 years". Penned by members of the Wisconsin state legislature, to Wisconsin's 2 US Senators:


“These responses to the disease have led to drastic changes in budget projections for states around the country: sales tax collections are down, income tax deadlines have been extended, unemployment rates are at historic levels and more businesses are permanently closing every day,” the letter said.

“That being said, Wisconsin has spent eight years making the tough choices to get our fiscal house in order,” the letter said. “We do know that our neighbors to the south have spent decades spending and borrowing recklessly.”

“After years of failing to fund their overly generous pension system, Illinois is already asking for the federal government to bail them out of these series of poor financial decisions,” the letter said.

“Wisconsin taxpayers should not be responsible for funding bailouts for irresponsible states across the country like Illinois, New York and California. Please stand with Wisconsin taxpayers and reject the multi-trillion dollar bailouts being considered by Congress,” it said.


https://herald-review.com/news/state-and-regional/wisconsin-lawmakers-urge-no-fed-bailout-money-for-illinois/article_6dae6864-e3db-5414-a944-b78cf768b5f5.html
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4990 on: July 17, 2020, 09:00:39 AM »
The Feds can borrow, with abandon, they don't need tax revenue.  

Borrowing is a delayed tax no one sees today.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4991 on: July 17, 2020, 09:06:52 AM »
Correct.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4992 on: July 17, 2020, 10:27:18 AM »
Hey, I have an idea!

Since online school is such complete shit and delivers little, zero, or even negative value to young students, one way to help the budget shortfall would be to cancel the 2020/2021 schoolyear.

Problem solved. :)

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4993 on: July 17, 2020, 10:57:27 AM »
I like it.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4994 on: July 17, 2020, 11:19:54 AM »
School systems have a lot of fixed costs that don't go away by canceling a school year.  You guys know that, of course.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4995 on: July 17, 2020, 11:51:05 AM »
School systems have a lot of fixed costs that don't go away by canceling a school year.  You guys know that, of course.
And they have a lot of variable costs that do.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4996 on: July 17, 2020, 12:38:55 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4997 on: July 17, 2020, 12:40:06 PM »
And they have a lot of variable costs that do.


Salaries come to mind. Mine got reduced. Many others I know aren't getting paid. What's good for one is good for all, no?
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